How rare is hilborn for a mopar?

How rare is hilborn mechanical fuel injection for BB mopar? how much do injectors, and cones cost? Kinda wondering if I'll ever see one again.

 

My brother and I had a set on a pulling tractor in the 70's. we went to two engine but used carbs cause we couldn't find another one. I have no idea what happened to it. It actually run very well on alcohol.

 

If you find it I may be interested. since I really don't have the money for one I found right now. How much do those things go for?

 

You're probably lookin' 1500.00 minumum for one that needs gone through or is incomplete(or both). I wouldn't think that they would be that hard to come by but you just never know these days.

I've been hunting a pair of Enderle barn doors for a couple of years, they were thick as thieves and cheap when I was a kid now they are literaly
non-existant. Who knows where that chit goes?

 

unclescooby posted an Algon on here a little while ago, don't know if he was selling it or not.

 

$2500 new from Hilborn without tubes, pump or drive.

 

I saw that on there page. They have no pictures, but the say wedge and max wedge. the one I found is 2 seperate intakes rather one like the new ones I've seen. I have a 383 which is a different block from the wedge (413 440)

 

Sound kinda like you Dave....

 

LOL

 

Ours was actually two separate pieces, it would fit both B and Rb motors.

 

that the one I need.

 

I have a hilborn set up that has chrysler on it but does not say what it fits I was thinking it probably fit a early Hemi the ****erflies are stuck it has been setting around for a long time But it does have the tubes hose and inj but no pump.

 

How about a nice pic?
Bye the bye,Hemi injectors are symetrical port and wedges are siamese port.
T.OUT

 

Yeah, I ended up putting that on Ebay with no reserve and it only brought $480 a few weeks ago. It got good traffic but didn't do much in the way of bidding. I think that's a good sign for you if you don't mind Algon instead of Hilborn. They are still out there pretty reasonably.

 

any pics of one. How about steetability. I know these are not known for streetability, but they are cool, and I would like the option. Unless you wanna donate one those cool *** turbinique dealies.

 

I've never tried to run one on the street but I know some guys do. I think there is a relatively (and money is very relative) inexpensive electronic conversion you can do these days. I'd check with Linder Injection at Gasoline Alley in Indianapolis. I think he was carrying the conversion parts to do it and he knows more about injection than I ever will.

The Turboniques are all gone except for one that I never got that I'm still battling for.

 

Check item 4600421258 on Ebay right now.

 

That's the one I've been watching. I don't have the cash right now. There is a car spending freeze due to some woman I decided to marry. It looks like I may be able to find another or one similiar later this summer when the freeze is removed

 

Another woman or

another injection set up?

She'll kick your *** either way!

 

I guess I see which one comes first. Hell there both about the same size.

 

I have a like new(raced one time in 1980) hilborn 2 3/16 alky setup for the 340 mopar. Fellow who owned it fell onto health issues and was never raced again...got the mag along with it...I have never seen another one...are they rare???

 

I modified Hilborn injectors for a Pontiac to run on my Packard. I modified Hilborn injectors for a Chrysler to run on my Lotus 907. I made the injectors for my 3 liter Nissan and '32 Plymouth 4 cylinder. So show a little cl*** and cut up a BBC Hilborn set up to fit your BB MoPar. Oh by the way, did I mention I have two BBC Hilborn injectors for sale at $750 apiece?

 

I got mine for about 1400 maybe 5 years ago. Hilborn part numbers of the era seem to be based on the first motor of the make they made an injector for, in the chrysler case that is the 331. Thats about all the information the part number will tell you, so don't ***ume that the number means the motor size it fits.

They aren't terribly rare, I've watched maybe a dozen run across ebay over the years. I got mine with a pump, stacks, a few different nozzle sets, barrel valve, front cover, jets, main byp***, and the critical linkages. It was mostly in good shape, and the pump (#1) was tight. It was a pretty good buy.

I'm not trying to put together a buyer's guide for old injector junk, but if you don't know what you are looking at you can get hosed of this stuff pretty bad. Count on replacing the nozzle lines and all the seals to the tune of $250. Missing linkage parts between the shafts and ****erflys will add up fast. It would also be best to inspect the shafts for wear, and to make sure the ****erflys close and aren't bent.

That injector on ebay has some issues, I'd certainly want some better pictures before i dropped any cash on it. I see a few byp***es, a shut off, an older hilborn pump and an enderle pump. It looks like its been thoughly worked over, so who knows what kind of shape the manifold is in, and the stacks are kinda ugly. If you could get him down a few hundred, it might be a decent purchase.

For the streetabilty thing, I put a few thousand miles on my plymouth with the injectors, the only time it ever missed a beat was before i figured out a whirlpool was forming in the gastank and letting air get into the system.... It is one of those things that everyone knows how to do but has never done.

 

I'll take it off your hands......and the mag too!!

 

Aint no way injectors for a 331 will fit a 383. Lots of 331-392 injectors around. Lots of them were raced and still are. Not so much for 383-440 type MoPars

 

No one is saying a hemi injector will fit on a wedge. The part number on a wedge injector however, is 331-CH-8B. This seems to be because hilborn part numbers are based on the first motor of the make they built an injector for. I've got two examples: a small block chevy injector (265) and a wedge injector (331).

There are two types of wedge manifolds, standard port and max wedge port. I don't know what the max wedge port part number is, but the standard port is 331-CH-8B.

 

Good info, Four-Thirteen. I may run Hilborns on my '66 Dart that I'm building, but I've also always wanted to run a blown car so the jury is still out which way I'll take it. But I am going to run a max wedge rather than a hemi.

 

Huh. That's odd. My BBC Hilborns say 396-C on them. I see small block Chevy Hilborns with 350C8A and 327C8. Late model Chrysler Hemi injectors have 426-CH-8F and the small Block MoPar in the catalog is 327C8MP. I guess that means they modified the basic casting for a SBC to fit a MoPar with the W-9 heads. I think your wedge set were stamped on Monday.

 

The number for a wedge head setup is 331 CH8C. I'm talking to a guy now about trying to buy one. What is the difference between the wedge port and standard port. I'm trying to see if it will fit a B motor 400 to be exact.

Bob

 

Port size is the only difference. Max wedge ports are about 1/4" bigger in both dimensions at the mating surface.

The two piece manifold will fit both an RB (413-426W-440) and a B (350-361-383-400), Just the spacing will be different and the connecting linkage rod must be shortened about an inch for the B motor.