Projects The bucket of ugly! A de-uglifying thread...

Yup, I gotta agree Eric! There are a couple of ways around that combo being a bad deal, but it does look good!

I can't get the picture of the coupe to enlarge at all, so I can't identify the blower, but it looks like a 4/71. If that's the case, I'm thinking three 97s are a bit too much up there. I can't help but wonder how they would look on a 6/71 though. Much more common these days, lots cheaper, too..... Hmmnnnnnn.

 

Excellent idea. Thank you.

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Referring to the inserts a couple posts up....

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3 97s would be nowhere near enough even for a blown flatty. Even if you want to use the bogus carb formula (its based on two invalid assumptions in the first place, namely that 1.5 hg vacuum at WOT is desirable, its not, and that advertised cfm numbers are valid, they arent) for a blown application, you need to multiply it by a factor using the boost calculated as a percentage of atmospheric pressure.
And you do NOT want to restrict the inlet side of a blown combination.

 

Wow, Mr Falcon George, first thing in the morning for me over here and with my brain still in neutral I have a headache trying to understand what you wrote, but, yeah but, they look darn good aye ? . Will see if I have another photo of the car Chip.

 

I was thinking that same thing, but I thought maybe he meant visually (don't think three in a row would fit on a 4-71 either).

CHIP! rebuilt Dyers 4-71 blower - $1395.00

http://www.alkydigger.net/proddetail.php?prod=DYER471

 

It's a Weiand blower in this photo but sorry it doesn't show much. I do have a better photo of it somewhere so will try and find it.

 

Normally, I wouldn't say anything, but I'm kinda sweet on Chip, dont wanna see him wander down the road to nowhere...

 

Ya, I kinda figured that as far as volumes and stuff. I was just sorta thinking out loud.

Got more no-see-'ums done on the 'Bucket this afternoon. One of the things that has driven me mad since I bought this car is the fact that were awfully found of things like drywall screws when putting stuff together in the wooden floor and braces. One of these things was the way oversized trans tunnel, screwed to the floor happily... Well, for a little while at least. See, the trans tunnel has been free ranging around this thing slightly for several months, just kinda doing it's own thing. The worst part, where the weather is less extreme, the heat leaching under it is an annoyance. Around here, that same heat become a cutting torch trying to burn a nice kerf all the way across your ankle! I kid you not I have the weirdest burn pattern across my ankle from just the air leaks under the tunnel.

Well, through the magic of 10/32 socket head allen machine screws and flange nuts, I no longer have to suffer that terrible fate! Now it's all sealed and happy, and might even float for a bit if dropped in water! Probably not, though.... Please gang, as you build these cars - yes they do have wood, no don't use household fasteners to screw things together! That wood screw that feels solid today will vibrate and come loose in just months of crashing around in your toy.

A quick picture of the yesterday's work. Not the even-ness between the slicks! I'm thinking about maybe narrowing the rear end housing a couple of inches pretty quickly to suck the slicks in a bit closer to the body. Since this is an 8" under this car, I have a Granada 8" that is just about to be narrowed to early bronco specs, and it's axles are about 3" narrower than the buckets. Little bits, but visually big differences.

Oh, mounted my H.A.M.B. tag topper too!

 

It's taken me a week, but I've now read all the way through this beginning to here. Knowing more is to come. Really dig what you've done with the car. Almost makes me wish I kept the one I had but let it go in a divorce about a dozen years ago. Weather here is not good for open car pilots, though. Rarely above 70 degrees means its always jacket weather in a roadster.

I know where mine went to, friend of a friend, I'm pretty sure he's just sitting on it, but I screwed up a good vintage original car and would have to un-do most of what I did to it.

Devin

 

Is a 4-71 with 3-2s a common traditional setup? I can't say I've ever seen it.

Steve

 

I think I have seen it somewhere in the sands of old magazines, but not common. As short as a 4/71 is I can't imagine that there is room for three of them on top. That's why I was thinking 6/71 aloud last night. But, the truth is that for now at least the blower is off the table. I'll keep at my buddy for his, and if it happens, it happens. In the mean time I'll get going on the triple 97 thing as quick as a I can.

 

IIRC, didnt the Beatnik Bandit have a 3-71 with 4 97s, float bowls facing outwards towards the sides? I'll see if I can find a pic.

 

Mind like a steel trap. Rusty......
2 inline, facing forward.
I know I have seen 4 97s float bowls facing out on a 3-71 or 4-71 early olds SOMEWHERE. It'll come to me...

 

I don't believe I remember any with four 97s on a 4/71. I have been digging a bit and have seen three in line on a 4/71 though. They were so closely placed though they looked uncomfortable up there.

 

Hey, Chip;

I think the 6-71 looks better than a 4-71 (proportions). Esp w/more than one carb on top. &, for any specific boost # (amt of airflow), you can under-drive the 6-71 vs the 4-71. I can't see a downside to the 6-71, other than it does weigh more, but uses a shorter snout for the belt (less leverage). & what w/the sticky TowelCity slicks, the small amount of extra weight should help keep the front wheels planted. Maybe. Or maybe it'd just slightly slow down the tendency to get air under the front skins. Maybe. . & since your friend "needs" his 4-71, it sounds like you could/should step up to the 6-71. Expediency in getting huffed, one-up-manship, & did I mention better looks/proportions, all in one easy step... . Ooohh, & still traditional... .

Marcus...

 

4 97's were on the 4-71 blown flathead in the Shadow Rods XL27 on 32 frame a few years back. I think it made cover of Street Rodder. The float bowls were facing outward as mentioned by falcongeorge.

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Here is the car. You can kinda see what's going on with it.

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Man those Towel City slicks look awesome.

 

Barney Navarro's T roadster had the 97s facing out to the sides. I can't remember if it was on top of a 4-71, but it was a flathead.


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It was a 4-71 after all..




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Moon rocket had 4 atop a 471 on a Cad. engine. And in the owner/builders boat with a 4 barrel. Think it was a custom built manifold. Probably made by Romeo Palamedes.

 

Same deal, but not the motor I was thinking of. I will have to try and hunt it up.

 

Thats the one. Cad, not olds, but thats the one that was in my minds eye.

 

Okay, so I got more done today! Woke up early and got out in the shop and worked a bit unimpeded by the need to do customer stuff for once! Last night as I was dropping off to sleep I came up with an idea of how to go about hooking up the lever shocks with out resorting to kinda tacky weld on brackets. Not that the brackets would have been too bad to look at, but to make the welds look nice, and to do a good job of grinding to detail the welds I would have to pull the front end off of the car, and that something I just don't have time to deal with right now. So, in the pictures you'll see what I came up with. to do this I needed a couple of turned spacers. Now, I have a very nice lathe. It has no 220 volt service to power it, but damn it's cool! So that would be of little help today. I went with "plan B", or is it "C" at this point?

Basically, I'll make my bushings with a cast off piece of 5/8" aluminum stock, an 1 1/4" hole saw, a 5/16" drill, and 4 1/2" angle grinder, and a bench grinder.... Oh, and about 1/2hour of dickin' around time! The photos should be somewhat self explanatory, other wise ask and I'll explain.

 

I threaded the two blanks on to a 5/16" bolt and locked them down with a lock washer, and chucked them in the drill press. speed it up and turn on the small angle grinder and for the love of God, wear safety glasses! I followed that with chucking them in a hand drill and running them over my small belt grinder to put just a small amount of taper and rounded edge on them. Then quickly back to the drill press and some fine emery cloth to finish... There, done.

 

It's not too late to be saved. Many have entered the light and reveled in it's incandescent glow and aura. There is peace and tranquility, in the light. The faster you go, the warmer you feel.

 

Pictures are giving me fits again... Boo! I'll skip to the chase... It's all help together with cool little aerospace hardware that a friend of mine gave me along with a nut and bolt bin that came from Garret/Airresearch back in the seventies. The heads of each bolt have a cool little rocket orbiting a planet motif, and soon all the lock washers will be replaced with drills and cotter pins, just for fun.

 

...And, the money shot! Now, if someone would have told me how much better this thing would ride and handle with shocks on the front of any sort, I would have done it earlier! Ya, I know better

 

Nice work Chip, looks good.