Technical y block to t5

What do I need other then the adapter plate to hook a 80s s10 t5 to my y block in my 1960 f100?

 

Pressure plate, clutch plate, pilot bearing, throwout bearing that are compatible with your flywheel and clutch fork. Then on the other end, a driveshaft the correct length with the correct yoke for the T5. Then the speedometer issues.

 

No adapter needed, you just need to modify a stock 1960 Y-Block Truck 3 bellhousing.

This guy can modify your bell, check his site for details; http://www.ford-y-block.com/index.html

I just had one done by a local machinist.

2 new holes need to be drilled and threaded slugs added for the top 2 transmission bolts

You can use a stock clutch but you will have to change the clutch disc to match the S-10 input shaft.

You have a few choices when it comes to the throwout bearing, you can press a bushing into the stock bearing to fit the trans or make a bushing to press onto the front bearing retainer on the transmission to fit the throwout bearing.

I also had to have the large bellhousing hole enlarged to fit the t-5 bearing retainer

 

Says on their site that their method will not work with an S10 transmission.

 

I'm only guessing but it sounds like the S10 bolt pattern is different than the Ford T10.

2 bolt holes on the Ford T10 line up with the original holes on the Y-Block bell.

I think some of the GM T-5s used the Ford bolt pattern, maybe you can swap out the cases.

Have you read all of the T-5 threads here on the HAMB? loads of info.

Also take a look on the Ford Truck Enthusiasts site, a bunch of the guys over there have installed T-5s behind Y-Blocks....http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/index.php

 

It would take a lot more than the case, the input shaft is a different diameter, the pilot bearing would be different, the splines are different (might only require a different clutch plate). The bolt pattern between the S10 and the Ford is very different. In the later years chevy went to the ford bolt pattern.

 

Pilot bearing could easily be made or modified, that's an easy one.

I know there's an 11'' clutch disc from the Chevy Astro Van that will work.

I'm not sure about the length of the S10 input shaft, even the Mustang input shaft needs to be shortened to work with the truck Y-block bellhousing.

I knew the cases where different but I don't have 2 side by side to compare, I bought a Mustang T5 at a swap meet and then found an S-10 Tail housing ***embly at a local junkyard, I have yet to put the 2 together.

 

Y-not find a 3 spd overdrive transmission that came behind that engine?????

 

Can't find an S10 bolt pattern at the moment, but these are the differences in the adapters. These are for a flathead, has nothing to do with the Y-block mount, they just show the difference in the bolt pattern between an S10 and mustang T5. The first two are the mustang/ford pattern, the second two are the S10 pattern, there is a lot of difference in the bolt patterns.

 

Found a couple of good photos (I only mess with ford T5s, so don't have a lot of info on S10). If you were interested in going with the mustang T5 you could sell your S10 T5, the flathead guys are always looking for them and I'd think the S10 would be worth more than the mustang T5 on the market (not to me! but I'm a mustang guy).

 

If it were mine and I had the '60 bellhousing and the S10 trans I think I would modify the bell as they do for the Mustang T5, just add 2 more weld in slugs with threads. No adapter needed.

 

Better be damn good at aligning it up! This is not a simple task, that would take some skill, a lot of skill. Also, the S10 T5 is a fairly poor transmission to use behind the y-block in the first place. That is a non-world cl*** transmission and will only handle 265 ft/lbs of torque. A 1960 292 is rated at 270 lb-ft @2600 rpm stock. So that transmission is overpowered to start with. I would not put that much work into something that would have to be babied just to keeping it from breaking.

 

Actually a pretty simple task, just machine the center hole just enough for the bearing retainer and your lined up, the 4 bolt holes just hold it in place. This has been done thousands of times by guys adapting engines and transmissions.
I just had mine done a few weeks ago, if I had a mill I'd have done it myself and I'm not a machinist.

 

So, it is your advice to install a transmission that is rated below the torque rating of the stock engine? I work with T5s, I rebuild them, I race them and have built adaptors for them. I would never recommend this transmission on this engine, it is a VERY bad idea.

 

I believe some of the S10 T5s are world cl***

 

Sure why not, He didn't say he was going drag racing

 

This guy put an S10 t5 hehind his Y-block truck, here is how he did it,

http://www.badgerlandf100s.com/techcorner/index.html

 

The torque rating is below the stock engine torque output, do you understand this transmission at all? Earlier you didn't even know the bolt pattern and now your an S10 install expert? I would never even dream of using this setup. Well, good luck, hope he has enough cash to rebuild and or replace it.

 

I understand what your saying, just trying to help the guy out.

I'm not holding a gun to his head making him use the S10 trans, that's his choice.

Never claimed to be a S10 install expert, however I do know that it will work, maybe not in drag race or towing applications but it will work.

 

Yep I agree, it will work. I was just saying that is a lot of investment in time and money for a sub-par setup. If it was the only transmission you could get and you wanted to baby it, I'm sure it would work. But I would think his transmission would be an easy sell to the flathead guys and he could get a world-cl*** mustang transmission with better gears and a lot stronger for less than he could sell the S10 for. Then it is a more standard install, stronger, better gearing, etc.

 

I wouldn't run an S10 behind a flathead! But that is just preference on my part. I use the T5Zs as much as possible, it is just a lot better transmission all the way around, the next in line for me would be a 89-93 mustang T5. Which T5 are you using Mark?

 

I agree 100%, the Mustang box is what I chose for my project. (early 90's 5.0)

He will still need to use an S10 tailhousing if he is going to use the stock bench seat in his truck.

 

Now that's a transmission! What did you install it in? Yes and no on the S10 tailhousing, that is probably the best way to go, but my current project is putting a T5Z in a 33 5 window coupe. I have S10 tailhousing, but think I am going to go with a remote shift setup.

 

I'm installing it in my '29 Roadster behind a Y-Block, I also have the S10 Tailhousing sitting on the shelf waiting to be installed.

With a positive stop shifter and a few internal mods it will hold up fine for what I'm doing.

 

LOL, I'm thinking about something like this, except on the ford tailhousing.

 

I posted a few pictures of shifters like that on one of the T5 threads.

 

Here's a few that I had saved;

IMG 4678 by Mark T posted Mar 24, 2014 at 5:24 PM

shifter by Mark T posted Mar 24, 2014 at 5:23 PM

 

IMG 3196 detail by Mark T posted Mar 24, 2014 at 5:27 PM

shifter2 by Mark T posted Mar 24, 2014 at 5:21 PM

shifter1 by Mark T posted Mar 24, 2014 at 5:21 PM

 

yep, looks like my collection. I think I really like that approach.