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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Bigcheese327, Dec 4, 2007.

  1. UKAde
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    It's good to have Bob back
     
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  2. motoklas
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    Hello,
    one more pair of radial engines in road vehicles, one in motor-bicycle and one in automobile!
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    When I was a boy, one older mechinist in Belgrade was making 5-cylinder radial engine using 5 BMW 250 cc single cylinder engines! Probably - war surplus from German Army left after defeat... Sorry - not any photo saved! Do not know if he ever maneged to finish it...
    Ciao, Zoran

    CIMG2739.JPG megola1b-1024x768.jpg
     
  3. banjeaux bob
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    10592854_715285868507729_2908640834918368709_n.jpg Delage,Segrave 1926 M.H. pic via LeCyclecaristeBelge
     
  4. banjeaux bob
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    I believe these are from ace photographer Becca Parker. Henderson 4 cylinder. IMAG1019.jpg IMAG1020.jpg
     
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  5. banjeaux bob
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    Marion Davies.I first saw this image at TheOldMotor.com. i217845.jpg
     
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  6. motoklas
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    Bob,
    Is that cuty (auto) some kind of mini-Dusemberg, or similar big luxurious American sport automobile?
    Ciao, Zoran
     
  7. fredvv44
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    Here is a BMW 3 cyl. that was built and runs. Also a Guzzi; don't know if it ever ran.
     

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  8. banjeaux bob
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    Fred,I did know there folks with the same crazy thoughts as me.I was thinking more on the lines of a v-8 BMW engine.
     
  9. banjeaux bob
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    Motoklas,I don't about the Marion Davies car.There isn't too much definitive information about it at all.It does look a very finely crafted vehicle.The paint scheme really sets the shape off too.
     
  10. banjeaux bob
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    1934 Morgan W/JAP LTOWZ. JAP LTD pic... 1919619_722233654503448_4924200062005376858_n (1).jpg
     
  11. banjeaux bob
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    "The Trice" driven by Gordon Stewart at the 998657_523104634416352_1157683601_n.jpg 2012 Boness Hill Climb. JAP LTD. pic...
     
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  12. banjeaux bob
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    Another car with a swirl finish body. 10418337_739107836155098_1591909979703925865_n.jpg Vintage Revival Montlhery pic...
     
  13. fredvv44
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    Bob, how do you think they did that? Doing it first to the flat sheet wouldn't work so it had to be done "on the car" but I cannot imagine doing that and every time you wash it you rub some of it off.
     
  14. banjeaux bob
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    Fred,I just look at the pictures. I have no earthly idea how they swirl polish that stuff.GOD bless them though.It sure is pretty.This car looks like she has some experience.Would like to see one that has just been finished how it sparkles in the sunshine.
     
  15. Lostinidaho
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    New Guy here.

    I am an avid old fan. I love to tinker and rebuild. Old cars, old motor cycles, old mini bikes, old hit and miss enginesI have always wanted to put together a car of my own design.
    A year ago I took a ride in a Ford Model A speedster. I fell in love. But I already have two models A's.

    I would like to build a single seat, reverse trike cyclecar. Low and race car-like When I found this thread I was stoked. So much inspiration, so much information.

    The thing is I want it to be street legal. I want it to be a consistent daily driver. The reason for the trike is I can base it off a motorcycle and hopefully license it as a modified motorcycle.

    I contacted my states DMV vehicle inspector and they were lost when it came to my idea (legal/ illegal even procedure).

    I think I have read every page in this thread Has anyone here done this meaning street legal? Any pointers?

    Thanks

    Lost
     
  16. banjeaux bob
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    Lost,Geoff and Fredvv44 have built three wheelers. Does your idea look like a Morgan? Get a hold of a Morgan 3 wheeler brochure and show your DMV inspector that.
     
  17. banjeaux bob
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    It rained pretty hard at Prescott.This is how they drained the water that had collected while the driver waited his turn at the starting line. Gasbaloon pic... 10593204_10153031997977067_3592319327353264087_n.jpg
     
  18. banjeaux bob
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    Frank's cars and pic...see post #5672 10338241_810957602271015_5853050409078778514_n.jpg
     
  20. banjeaux bob
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    Did I share this one with you? 10492428_702736666429316_2720603810815302467_n.jpg
     
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  21. banjeaux bob
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    We all know how well this V* JAP engine works in a GN.Myself,I wonder how these FIAT aircraft engines would work in a GN too? download (1).jpg download (4).jpg 1533876_727031697307873_1428168504_n.jpg 10553531_650337535063055_936182039541259416_n.jpg
     
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  22. banjeaux bob
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    10552574_709848112384838_4440759010639132955_n.jpg Rytecraft Scootercar
     
  23. banjeaux bob
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    Homebuilt midget. 10446711_801813429853388_538739999203138151_n.jpg
     
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  25. UKAde
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    An excellent video of the work of Neander a few Jap powered cycle cars and very nice bikes , love the steering wheel of the Neander cyclecar which incorporates a twist grip for the throttle I think
     
  26. banjeaux bob
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    Ade,looks like a one time show.A lot of work for those story boards.
     
  27. Ned Ludd
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    I'm not sure if at least one of the two Neander open-wheel cyclecars is a tilting model, doubtless developed in the course of devising tilting sidecars? Neither looks anything like this one, though:
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    The search delivered this history: http://www.germanmotorcycles.cl/Neumann-Neander/NEUMANN-NEANDERcoments.html The site is odious, however, as will be apparent as soon as you start reading. Proceed with caution.
     
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  28. motoklas
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    Hello Ned,
    You are quite right - article is hard to read, but could be found a few interesting facts about Naender and his magnificient vehicles... A few more photos are attached, between them one simple 3-wheeler with American engine (!) (Indian Chief), than one tandem 3-seater and one front wheel-drive rear-wheel steering 3-wheeler (!) ... Have to addmit that author was right in one: all vehicles are extraordinary and made as light air-planes to be driven on roads! Named by Neander as "Fahrmachinen" ~ "driving machines"...
    Ciao, Zoran

     

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  29. Lostinidaho
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    Thanks Bob,
    Yes it would be Morgan-esk. I took some pictures and drawings with me when I visited with the inspector.
    The inspector was just lost since it was an odd request.

    I am early in my planning so before I get too deep I wanted to know the street legal issues.

    Thanks for the heads up on other members three wheeled cars.

    Lost
     
  30. fredvv44
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    Lost, where do you live? I'm in Florida and I have found the DMV's have gotten much more strict in recent years. All states are trying to have the same rules for titling cars. I'm trying right now to title my JZR kit car 3 wheeler. They request (demand) a Certificate of Origin for the kit and ability to trace ownership if it has changed hands.

    In most states a 3 wheeler is titled as a motorcycle. Some states have a max weight limit. All homebuilt/custom cars must be inspected before title and tag are issued.

    For a total homebuilt you will have to show invoices for all parts used to build. If you build the frame you have to have invoices for the steel used and a certified welder has to do the welding. All front suspension and steering parts have to come from a manufactured car (no ATV parts allowed).

    The days of scratch building anything you want are gone. My guess is there have been too many wrecks with home builts or the laywers have gotten involved an ruined it for all of us.
    Good luck,


     

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