Projects Giant speedster project

No, the one on the running board.

 

Still doesn't work for non-members of the Ford Barn.

<Edit: OK does now, thanks.>

 

What? The muffler-oven wasn't just a joke?

I gotta go back and read some more of this thread.

 

Ulu, the manifold oven/stove has been an aftermarket item since the Model T

 

That T-Tanic boattail job looks like something from the Red Green Show.

"If the women don't find you handsome..... "

 

Yes but with somewhat less duct tape....

 

The Speedster is ready for the car show. Not everything is done, but enough. I went for a ride but there was no one to video the historic run. I think I got it up to about thirty and it felt like fifty. There seemed to be plenty left to go. The temp gauge got up to 170. The timing and carb need a little fine tuning, but they're pretty close. Man is that steering stiff! New tires would help. I saw an add on PS advertised online for a tractor. Would that work on a car? Gary Wales puts PS on his rides. Possibly I could get a right hand power steering box from a UK truck and adapt it to the speedster. Somehow, despite my careful measuring, one front fender is 2 inches lower than the other. Not sure how that came about. No matter, tomorrow we'll have fun and I promise pics and vids.

 

Jerry, bring it down to the Gear Jam at the end of Sept- don't think you will be allowed to make a pass on the strip, but having it in the car show on Sat and the Commerce Cruise In on Fri night will be AWESOME!

 

Years ago we ran a power steering add-on in our sprint car that came off a forklift as memory serves me. I don't see why the unit you mentioned wouldn't work. You might check with Schoeder also. They used to offer a similar add-on. Both of these units mount between the steering gear and the wheel.

 

Jerry,

You might find a good add on setup at your local tractor wreckers.
< The yellow 54 Ford convertible pictured has a similar factory power steering option.

 

showing before the RIDLER will disallow entry....

watched CHITTY CITTY BANG BANG (20th + time) again last night your windshield will be just fine ...

in your steering gear box is the worm adjuster too tight?
that steering wheel too small?
your arm muscles not get enough finish sanding lately?

 

I forgot to push the post button on this Sunday morning.

Hey, I found a RHD power steering box from a mail jeep. Interesting. 8:00AM Leaving out for the show. Going to wash the speedster, load it up and go. Lots of sunscreen and drinks. I need one of those umbrella hats like Beetlejuice.

Jerry

 

My buddy Keith came with me Sunday and we had loads of fun at the show answering crazy questions. Did the engine come out of a tugboat? Does it run on gas? Where's the propeller? The Speedster won best of first place in the antique category and best of show in the antique category. Believe it or not the Speedster was the oldest car there. I need more practice driving and shifting. I forgot the clutch won't release unless the gear is fully engaged. The little output shaft brake may not be adjusted right either. Lots of little bugs to work out. I'll have to spring for a tag and insurance. Keith filmed a little video.

Jerry

 

Cool video. But you ran a stop sign at about 1:55.... you hooligan, scofflaw, rapscallion... Setting a bad example for the youths of 1923, that's what you're doing.

 

I think the guy in that little green Ford pick-em-up truck was a-scared of you.

If he weren't, then he shoulda been!

 

Here's one way to accomplish the power steering without having to change the box. Insert this somewhere between the steering wheel and steering sector.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Sweet...&CAGPSPN=pla&gclid=CKD8pKitnsACFQwV7AodJjoAcw

 

Congrats on the trophies! Now you have to work on your wardrobe. Something like this:


...or this:

 

Windows Snipping Tool is uncharacteristically useful:

 

Thanks for the kind words, everyone. My next project will be simple like the T-Tanic. Actually, patman, I have a nifty outfit, but it was so damn hot I just couldn't bring myself to put it on. The picture shows the mild version. I've got the black leather helmet and black gauntlets too. (Yes, I still love to dress up.) September a good month for those clothes.

Jerry

 

ebbsspeed, I checked out that PS unit. Neat! It still needs a hydraulic cylinder, though. Actually one of the front tires only had 15 psi in it. When I aired it up the steering got much better. With new tires it might even be acceptable--especially if I start going to the gym.

Jerry

 

Jerry, here's what I had in mind. I didn't read enough about the servo in the previous link I posted, so didn't realize it was basically just the cylinder control valve.

My grandfather had something similar to the device in the link below on his Farmall Super H. It was right in line with the steering shaft, and used the hydraulic pump on the engine.
http://www.eaton.com/Eaton/ProductsServices/Hydraulics/Steering/PCT_261469#tabs-2

 

Jerry, you have a terminal case of that proud papa smile.

Congratulations!

 

Hey, thanks a bunch Ned! I just showed my boss how to do that today, for the 10th time. LOL

BTW I did get to see some of those boat-car pics through alternate links, & it is a shocker alright.
But those guys are having a ball driving the ungainly thing. You just know they are.

That, my friends, is the final valuation. It's not what Edmunds or B of A will show ya. It's not about the trophies (...as nice as they can be; and Jerry, the trophy you deserve hasn't been built yet.)

The real value is in the raw unvarnished fun; because mere money can't buy the effort I spend on this stuff.
Hell, we pay big bux for the privilege of doing all the work. Even those of us in the car repair/resto business as a profession.

Oh, man, I'll bet Jerry just burst out laughing when someone asked about the tugboat.

It's dang hard to buy that kind of fun.

 

I take it that device is a planetary gear torque multiplier like on a Model T steering. Simple yet effective. It increases the turns lock to lock, but who cares about that? I like it! I wonder if you could just put one behind the steering wheel?

Jerry

 

I don't believe it increases lock-to-lock at all. It's a hydraulic assist, and output is based on input torque. Basically it's a hydraulic motor and servo in a single unit. If your engine quits it still works with no hydraulic pressure, but is a little harder to turn. At least that's what I remember from Grandpas old "H".
Here's another manufacturer's offering:
http://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydrau...IN-STEERING-VALVE-TORQUE-GENERATOR-9-7122.axd

 

Jerry,
Look great! Looks like a lot of fun! Congratulations!

 

That thing is a BEAST!!! And I love it.

 

Jerry,
Here is a power steering cylinder that I was going to install on my White half track but it never took place. It needs cleaning up but was a working unit. The valve assembly would go in the tie rod or the drag link & the other end would fasten to the axle or the frame. You would need a pump & lines to make it work. It is yours if it would work for the Speedster. It is about 3 ft. long & could be mailed.
Jack

 

Or maybe just pump the tires up harder & enlarge the steering wheel?

 

Video looks neat.

If you want the steering to be less effort, you could hook a steering "quickener" in backwards (steering wheel end towards the steering box input) and it would act like a transmission in low gear.

Biggest benefit there being the unit is self contained and requires no external power (pressurized fluid or otherwise).

Downside being you will have to turn the wheel twice as far to get the same steering effect.

If you are trying to hide the power steering unit, you could check with Flaming River.

OT street rod stuff, I know, but I've heard rumor they have a version of their electric power steering available as a servo similar to the one that was posted from Sweet Mfg.

Benefit there is all you need is power, ground and a mount bracket.

No lines, pump, reservoir, cooler, etc.

Downside I'm sure is co$t.