Hot Rods wheel cyl bleeder won't bleed

the stuff Ray mentions is called sil glyde or syl glyde , not to be confused with astro glide ..
most napas or good parts store carry it and like greaseball hair formula, a little dab will do at the rubbing points .

oh if you get this stuff on your hands or clothes vinager is the way you remove it , otherwise it will stay on your fingers for a few days

 

It might just be me, and if it is, please feel free to ignore.
When having issues with Brakes, spare no expenses, because the one time the pedal goes to the floor in modern traffic, shit really hits the fan in a bad way!

Some of the I've personly screw up;

1) never cut it short with brake fluid! It gets to old, it can be too cheap and if you use the wrong kind it turns some of the rubber to gunk/junk.

2) when bleeding, use a botle with a hose inside. The hose has to sit tight around the bleeder screw. The hose has to be so long that you make a long turn and keep the end submerged in fluid.
This gives you some feedback regarting what you are doing.
Like if the little whole between resoir and pistons are closed, the fluid will go back and forth, when the pedal is pressed down and released. Instead of sending more fluid down.

3) let all bleed screw stand open till fluid comes down, so you dont do harm to the master. And again you se if it flows fluid, just by gravity. This only works if the MC sits higher then the bleed screw.

Change of brakeshoes dont cause all of your problems, but it will cure some of the, and make it all safer.
If you change you MC, you increases safety and might cure some of your problems.
But you might have get it to work, but you haven't found/solves your problem, so it might come back.
Stay at it, and follow true.
Dont back out.

 

good ideas guys .......... will do.

 

if your looking for shoes , try the yellow pages as there are local brake/clutch relining shops . I know of several here in Chicago, seeing your from milwaukee I used to know of one on w state . , some say they are truck only, but if you call sometimes you find out they also do old cars and have better materials than the old stuff , like semi metallic . also try rock auto as I found some old stuff on there .

 

we all like to diagnose,and figure out problems/issues......But, if it's an old car with old parts,and it has to stop,and save your A$$,wouldn't you want to make sure every stone has been unturned,and you KNOW that all's ok? Yes- you can step by step it,and figure out what the problem was,but- Really? Might there be children riding in this car? Your spouse?
Not trying to piss in your wheaties,but please don't skimp on brakes....
Gotta be able to stop FIRST,before you can GO.
Safety first,cruising and burnouts to follow........

 

your right ............... safety first .

 

yes . that was called " brake clutch and drum " there is a autobody shop there now right across the street from NAPA .been there quite a few times even when I was a little kid with my pa. he always had his shoes relined and arched there.
anyway there is a shop called "brake clutch and Gear " about 3 miles from me and they have an old timer there that knows how to do that old skill with brakes. will go there tomorrow see if he can reline and arch my shoes.

 

pitty another small shop closed up . its been years since I was sent there for a old , old gm truck ( early 60's 5 tonner ) and they relined the shoes for us , it was weird as the place ( all brake ) that sent us was from Chicago and did trucks but not old ones . they did awesome work and relined them with a metallic liner , stopped way better than the old shoes did .

 

Internal leak in the master cylinder, I had one right out of the box that wouldn't move any fluid through the system. Listen to these sugestions posted before mine, they are leading you in the right direction.

 

stimpy
called brake clutch and gear near by and got a quote of $120 to re-line 4 brake shoes . just the fronts .wooooooooow .
I called every parts house in milwaukee and no such listing anymore .
I ordered a set of from berbaum for $65..

 

have to remember lots of the parts are not made anymore and finding the cores are becoming hard too . , IMO and it was me I would do local as you can bring them your drums and have them arched to them so they work better , plus make sure the relined are riveted not bonded . never liked a brake shoe that was not mechanically locked to the pad