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Clutch and Brake pedal ??

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Clark, Jan 19, 2006.

  1. Clark
    Joined: Jan 14, 2001
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    Has anybody ever put the master cylinder infront of the pedal on in the floor pedals?

    I have a set of manual brake pedals from a mid 30's Ford. I think they are gonna work great cause the clutch pedal goes through the brake pedal and the clutch arm is right next to the tranny. The other thing that I think will work great is the master cylinder will be infront of the pedal. It will be right under the steering box and can be gotten to without a door in the floor.

    I should have some pics tonight or tomorrow.
    Clark
     
  2. Crusty Nut
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    That is how mine is set up. I used a VW pedal assembly:eek: and the clutch hookup was a no brainer and the master just needed a simple bracket to mount it in front of the pedal with a homemade pushrod.
     
  3. Slide
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    55-57 Chevys had the clutch pedal pivot going thru the brake pedal pivot. I have wondered more than once if you couldn't take one of these setups and turn it upside down (and flip the pedals around backwards) to do exactly what you described.
     
  4. caffeine
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    thats how most motorcycles are setup too.

    i guess that helps nothing though...

    ..man im such a douchebag.
     
  5. SUHRsc
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    just a thought

    dont let your exhaust be too close to your master cylinder
    zach
     
  6. Bruce Lancaster
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    I saw a pedal set made like that on a '40's non-descript pickup in the junkyard, once--I think it may have been a Stude. It looked a great deal like early Ford pedals except for the front-mounted cylinder, and even used the same 3-bolt MC as early Fords. I was lazy that day, and it was off to the melting pot next time I was there, alas. Very compact way to build.
     
  7. Kevin Lee
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    Ihave a set of '37 pedals and was thinking about this just last night. I't would work but I'll likely have to shorten the arm for the correct ratio with hydraulic brakes.
     
  8. tommy
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    Clark if you are talking about your 34 chassis and pedals, this will work.

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    The arm off another pedal was welded to the bottom of the original brake pedal so that the rod goes aft when the brake is applied. I've seen a couple of 34's done this way also. It gets real crouded down there. I did it this way on the sport coupe.

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    This is how somebody did it on the roadster years ago. I think the bellcrank is part of a mechanical brake system. The m/cyl faces forward on the left side. The pedal pulls the bellcrank forward pushing the left rod into the back of the M/cyl. It works well.
     
  9. Clark
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    I've got most of the bracket done. I think I'm gonna have to extend the arm for the brake rod. Doesn't look like it has enough travel when compared to the pedal. Everything else looks good.

    My biggest problem is this car is real low and I don't want anything below the framerail. That's why I'm trying to put the MC in the front.
    Clark
     
  10. Paul
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    if I remember correctly the mid 30s MoPars are master in front of pedal on top of frame..
     
  11. tommy
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    I thought that might be a problem for you. My K member sticks lower than the M/cyl. in my case.
     
  12. Clark
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    Tommy...this is a frame I'm building for a T with 2x4 rails. Not much room. I like how yours was done.
    Clark
     
  13. Andy
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    I put the M/C in front of the petals in a 32 I did in the 60's. I was using rams horns so no exhaust heat problems. It made filling easy because it was right under #7 cyl. Ran it that way for 20 years. No problems. I did not have to cut a hole in the floor for it either.
     
  14. Spitfire1776
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    My Stude P/U has that set-up. Which is kind of a pain in the ass because it binds a little and when you push the clutch in it'll partially apply the brakes. Which isn't going to matter much until I get a V8 in it and either the door paneled or new doors.
     
  15. grouchy
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    Any more info on this? I have a model a brake pedal that may worlk for this. I don't have room on the firewall and I don't like the m/c mounted under the floor. Thanks!
     
  16. Hackerbilt
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    Just got a set from a 38...same thing. Bolted to the top of the X member.
     

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