Let's Talk Cyclecars

... a pair phtos of the same modelle!
Zoran

 

absolutely gorgeous - It must have been hard to part with.
Thanks for solving the mystery - I wouldn't have thought it was 1400cc - do you have any other specs on the motor ?

 

That wide skirt looked French to me. I would have guessed Majola Type B (59x90mm, 984cc) With a 59mm bore, a 1400cc engine would have a 128mm stroke. Not out of the range of possibility for prewar engines, but pretty remarkable. I found a similar clement-bayard engine on carandclassic.co.uk.

It is probably newer. It has a different magneto setup & the water inlet is different (not visible in this pic.)

 

Thanks SR100
I found these picks of a Clement Bayard motor which matches mine in all respects . I also understand that they produced an 1131cc motor which is more consistent with my bore and probable stroke (60mm x 100mm).

 

The Beaulieu Encyclopedia of the Automobile lists the larger engine at 1356cc, which would be 59 x 124mm. Do you have plans for your engine?

 

Thanks again SR100
My old wooden ruler must have been more accurate than I thought at 59mm. I must get a copy of that book - it sounds like the bible. I was relying on an old 1964 book on French vintage cars by John Bolster. As to what plans I have for it - As I don't have any other parts for it I will see if anybody wants it in NZ I think there are about 6 Clement Bayard's down here but I am not sure what models.

 

... or to find some veteran car shassis and built replica, or re-creation of some bastard from the era?
Ciao,
Zoran

 

It is missing the lower crankcase, which holds the camshaft on that engine. Without it (or a borrowed one to copy) it will be a difficult engine to rebuild.

 

I agree - i will see what is around parts wise but suspect it best goes to someone who owns a runner.
shame as it is very light and just 30cm long - would have been ideal for a little special.

 

Brooklands 1927

 

I love this boat tail bignan

 

I like that Bignan too.Those are probably the best images of it I have seen.

 

A few more

 

New panel for a Morgan 3 wheeler

 

Hello There,

Who needs gasoline engines, electric-motors, or pedals – when we have gravity?
(legend said that cycle-cars were developed in Spain, before The Great War: competitors in gravity races put small engines on their cars to drive them up hill, instead walking and pulling them; later used to drive them from home to hill and back, and later to drive them around... more about Spanish cycle-cars next time)

2013 Goodwood Festival of Speed Soapbox Racers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi7UUPrQ7_A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kIgU7vID3k
...and, one old - just for nostalgia!
http://word.photos/index.php?photo=1DLxuXPUDv4&keyword=maine%20street%20soapbox&title=1935%20All%20American%20Soap%20Box%20Derby%201935%20Chevrolet%20Newsreel&video=1
Ciao, Zoran

 

Here's some more gravity racing here in America....

http://www.ncderby.com/

 

Some of those look like the illegal soapbox cars from a few years ago.

 

For those unfamiliar with SFVISBF's (San Fernando Valley Illegal Soap Box Federation) exploits:

 

Ive just made the seat for the owners "other" C6 also restored by thornely kelham

 

I cannot believe the lawyers haven't put a stop to that. What fun!

 

Lawyers? ​

Probably didn't see any money in gravity racing!

However, nothing strange that they call thier races "ILLEGAL". Quite dardevil racing, but much better than those stupid RED-BULL "races"...
Probably the simplest and cheapest form of racing on four (or sometime three) wheels... I saw some more "normal" in which I would like to take appearence, in spite of my 64 years. Once, here in Bern I saw one such racer parked at grass in front of house, but never find anything about such races in Switzerland... Probaly, that there are some - have to check!

Ciao,
Zoran​

 

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifi...eler/1949-morgan-f4-in-good-condition/3102185

 

Very pretty car

 

Wasn't trying to hijack the thread. The illegal guys were stopped. For those that weren't here back then a guy was killed running into a parked car. Let's get back to cycle cars.

 

Kume,not worry about being on topic or not! Great find.Did you bring home the rest of the machine shop too?I'd like to see pictures of THAT!

Bob

 

An immense boost to my 1913 Alldays & Onions cycle car project this week with the purchase of a running motor and radiator.. It was being used to run an overhead belt set up in a private workshop since it was removed from the car in the 1950s. Sadly no idea what happened to teh rest of the car. Rare items retained include the throttle and timing levers formerly mounted on the steering column and chain oilier that mounted on the dash. Has an interesting Binks 3 jet carb fitted (not original).

 

I guess technically the Alldays midget was a micro car rather than a true cycle car.
Unfortunately the workshop went elsewhere as part of a deceased estate. Funny how these things come out of the woodwork every now and then. I recently acquired a spare gearbox for my 1920 Wolseley that was being used on an old engineers lathe and was in pristine condition inside. Beats trying to use weathered parts from old bush mills.

 

Couldn't find an image of a complete auto but here is a pic of a Japanese light car chassis by the name Sekine.
The driveline is angular and drives a gear at the left rear wheel.