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Projects The bucket of ugly! A de-uglifying thread...

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by need louvers ?, Aug 14, 2013.

  1. Well, didn't make it back down to the shop after all. Our momma dog (Dachsund) isn't doing well. She's been suffering from kidney failure for a while, and took a turn for the worse yesterday. Vet says there's nothing they can do, it's just her time. Might stop by there o. The way home tonight and shoot a couple of quick pics, depends on if Daisy makes it through the day


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  2. steel rebel
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    By all means take care of Daisy. We'll be here when she is resting.
     
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  3. need louvers ?
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    Did stuff today! I'll post a bit later!!!
     
  4. JohnEvans
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    Like what?? Get out of bed???
     
  5. need louvers ?
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    Blownfuel, I'm sad to hear this. I will be going through the same thing soon with my 18 year old buddy, Mr. Heihei Chan. He's a cockapoo, and he has gone from being the toughest scout there is, to being very frail and just wandering a bunch. His tail still wags though, and he is happy on his little adventures in the house and shop, but I'm afraid those days will end soon.

    Take care of your Daisy and spend every last minute you can... We'll all be here later.
     
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  6. need louvers ?
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    So, I teased earlier that I actually accomplished something today! Well, I did! I even named the picture file T-Bucket progress... REALLY!!!

    I took some time today and decided that I would weld the roll pan onto to grill shell. I had to blast the roll pan, as it has sat so long on the porch it started to surface rust.

    Basically, I had thought about how to do this well for quite some time, and what I came up with was to tack a section of straight tubing to the pan, lay it on top of the rails, futz with what was needed to make it fit straight, and weld it in. I am happy to say that it went exactly like I wanted it too! DSC02169.JPG

    The welds were done with just a bit more oompf than you would normally put into sheet metal, just to make sure I got some penetration. I hate to admit it, but I don't have a tig welder at my place, so everything gets migged. Done correctly, there is nothing wrong with that. in this particular case, it worked even better than tig would have because of my gaps. DSC02171.JPG

    Each tack was done as far apart from the last as possible, alternating from side to side. Every tack was done in the same hand motion as well, pointing straight at the grill shell then rolling down to the pan. This put the heat build up on the thicker material, "catching" the lighter stuff momentarily. DSC02173.JPG

    After all was solid, I took my 3/8" olive shaped burr in my die grinder and shaped the weld into a nice fillet shape. In the end it'll get a finger full of schmuda to finish stuff off, but truth be told, under a quick coat of primer it doesn't look too damned bad. DSC02175.JPG
     
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    I'll give you guys the money shot after dinner... Judy is making Lamb chops.
     
  8. need louvers ?
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    Well, she's still cookin'.

    My elephant came in handy to hold it all up for spraying! The big bummer of the day though was now it's too big to go back into the blast cabinet to get cleaned up... Crap! gonna have to farm that out now. DSC02179.JPG

    A bit of last second grinding, a bit of wipey-wipey, and it got some of Rust-O-Leum's best... DSC02182.JPG

    A tiny bit more over the knee and over a piece of exhaust tubing adjusting, and this is what we have.... DSC02191.JPG DSC02189.JPG

    A bit mor trimming and some more futzing and it'll be done.
     
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  9. that looks just the ducks nuts:D As you say a quick swipe of filler round the edges to smooth it out and it'll be:cool:
     
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  10. Dick Stevens
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    Chip, it looks good, same as everything else you have done, not the least bit surprising, I may add. ;):)
     
  11. steel rebel
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    Probably the same way Ivo did it. Anyway it looks as good as his.
     
  12. Blue One
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    Looks good, keep this up and it won't be the bucket of ugly anymore. :) Ummm, wait, wasn't that the goal to begin with ? ;) :D
     
  13. wsdad
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    Thanks for the additional information.

    I've seen the pictures of the blue car but didn't recognize it in red.

    I think it's pretty cool.


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  14. wsdad
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    I agree.


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  15. verde742
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    Chip, couldn't help but notice bolt on heim joint, that holds steering arm, LET"S TALK !!
     
  16. steel rebel
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    Looks as good to me. I do like the louvers on yours. Not too much.

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  17. need louvers ?
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    It's a grade 8 fine thread bolt with a hardened spacer and grade 8 Nylock nut. It was trimmed from a longer bolt so that the unthreaded shank goes all the way trough the Heim, spacer and steering arm leaving just enough thread for Nylock engagement. What do you see that's wrong that I'm missing? For once I'm not being a smart ass! I'm always open to other views as far as hardware.
     
  18. Chip, im thinking the lack of a washer in case the joint pops.....or maybe something else:)
    I like the front treatment:cool: JW
     
  19. Blue One
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    I think I'm in the agreement with the safety washer thing. If the head of the bolt would hold the body of the rod end in place when (or if) the ball socket of the heim failed then you are probably good without the washer.

    I know plenty of rods have run heim joints on steering however I think I prefer a proper tie rod end.
    If your heim is a 5/8" thread size, So Cal sells tie rod ends in that thread to replace heim ends.
    http://www.est1946.com/tierodend-58-18thread.aspx
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  20. Kiwi Tinbender
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    Yeah, Larry, you can get those from Speedway as well. I`m more worried about Chip`s shot with the His and Hers Bathtubs in there--kind of like all those Viagra TV ads....:eek::D


    Nice work on the pan, Mr Quinn....
     
  21. Kiwi Tinbender
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    By the way--If anyone gets Kustoms Illustrated, I am told the new one is out, and I get to toot my horn a little bit with a feature that has my work as part of the deal..........Shameless thread hijack, I know, but I don`t get many kudos....
     
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  22. porkshop
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    Chip what's the red touring body? And is it for sale? THANKS JOHN
     
  23. verde742
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    I know your "open" Chip, why I felt comfy bringing it up. Lost two buddies in a 29 roadster PU when the heim assembly came undone..https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/images/M/3068.JPG check this site and then decide..
     
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    [​IMG]
    When a rod end or spherical bearing is mounted in single shear and is not positively retained by the surrounding structure, most sanctioning bodies require large-diameter retainer washers to prevent loss of control in case the ball or race separates from the housing. Plain flat "fender" washers are large enough, but they restrict the motion of the bearing. The washer needs a bevel to allow full freedom of movement at the joint.

    Our Safety Retainer Washers are specially machined just for this purpose. The plated steel washers are available in SAE bore sizes of 1/4 through 5/8 inch and metric bore sizes of 8mm to 16mm.

    Why Use Safety Retaining Washers? Click the link to see how a $3 Safety Retaining Washer could prevent a catastrophe
     
  25. Good info, Verde742. My posts are very hit and miss these days when using my phone, and I don't know why. I'm still logged in (well, my profile is there when I connect, so I assume I'm still logged in), but about half the time my posts don't go through. Daisy passed yesterday morning around 0930, at least she went fairly quick. Thanks for your concern, Guys.
     
  26. steel rebel
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    Well Verde you learn something every day on the HAMB although I'm still into the old knuckles as is blue one.
     
  27. need louvers ?
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    Thanks Verde. I get what you are after now. Yes, I normally would run a washer over these, but I felt fairly secure in not doing that as these ends on my car are top quality chrome moly stuff that have a bit wider web to protect from pull through in just such a case. The actual web is quite a bit smaller than the head of the bolt when you look at them, so I thought I was safe. I buy them through a local sprint car and Midget chassis shop and check them frequently.

    Certainly not a bad idea to double down though on safety, and I will fit a washer over in the next few days.

    For me the Heims are an aesthetic thing more than anything else. I love regular tie rod ends on older forties and fifties builds, but by the time the sixties rolled around, EVERY race car and hot rod you see in pictures was running heims. I have used them quite a bit over the years, and I find there is a WIDE gap in qualities out there. The cheaper grades wear almost instantly, before your very eyes, the more expensive stuff lasts forever.
     
  28. t-rod
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    Blownfuel, sorry for your loss. Pets are family.
     
  29. missysdad1
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    Sorry to hear of your loss, Blownfuel. My dogs are my family, too. I have lost many over the years and each loss seems even more painful than the last. Please accept my condolences.
     
  30. Dick Stevens
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    Blownfuel, my condolences, our dogs are indeed family members and it hurts when they suffer or pass, same as any family member does.
     

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