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Stiff 4 speed hurst shifter in reverse

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Sunday driver, Dec 20, 2014.

  1. Sunday driver
    Joined: Sep 30, 2014
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    Sunday driver

    Hello all I have a T10-148B it was just rebuilt , the shifter was not , I sprayed WD40 in there .
    it loosened up nice but getting in reverse is two handed job , is that. Because the shifter is so short ?
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    It has sat 25 years indoors , spring tension seems high was wondering if there is a adjustment , or if that's just how it is ?

    Thanks new guy -Sean



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  2. Mr48chev
    Joined: Dec 28, 2007
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    No adjustment on the spring that I know of but I've had to take mine apart more than once and clean it and lube it. They aren't hard to take apart, clean up and put back together but you want to lay the parts out in order or it becomes a time consuming puzzle.
     
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  3. I have a Richmond T10 with a Hurst shifter and it goes into reverse pretty easily. I did take the shifter apart and clean/lube it. As Mr48 says, be very careful about the internal pieces as you disassemble it. You might also wait till you get it in a car and running, so you get then internals of the trans lubricated real well. Tranny could just need some oil thrown around to get everything working nice and smoothly.
     
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  4. Have you unhooked the linkage to isolate the problem? Are you sure it isn't in the linkage or the transmission?
     
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  5. chubbie
    Joined: Jan 14, 2009
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    I had the same problem on my '65 442 i put a longer stick on it and it shifts nice. My shifter was a NOS hurst. I did a 38 chevy this summer with a 3 speed/used Hurst shfter. It was STIFF in all gears so i cleaned it out and regreased it. now it shifts NICE!!
     
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  6. Sunday driver
    Joined: Sep 30, 2014
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    Sunday driver

    It's when your in neutral side to side is loose , but getting the shifter to slide over further too the reverse ready position .
    Once its there it shifts into reverse fine , it releases into the neutral side to side spot fine .
    It just seems the spring is real strong . The shifter Handel has been cut down also , so maybe less leverage ?


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  7. Might check the bushings to see if if one is fubar. I had a pretty rough shifting hurst 20 years ago- I had to put new bushings in. Good for another 10,000 second gear chirps


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  8. Andamo
    Joined: Jan 10, 2006
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    Something look right with that reverse rod. Pull it off the trans. and see how easily the linkage goes in and out of gear.
     
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  9. Lube helps but, dismantling, cleaning and re-lube is really the way to go. I just went through this same thing............cleaning grit and grime made the difference.
     
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  10. Checking to see if any of these helped/made a difference?
     
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    This is my T-10 with a Hurst Ram Rod shifter. My reverse linkage arm is much straighter, yours is very bent. A problem with a bad bushing will be magnified when the linkage arm is that bent.
     
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  12. oldsjoe
    Joined: May 2, 2011
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    Mine did that on a Muncie I took it apart cleaned all the plates and lubed it up and it took care of the problem.
    My reverse linkage is also much straighter than yours.
     
  13. fms427
    Joined: Nov 17, 2006
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    His linkage looks right for a low mount shifter-like a Vette. Ram-Rod and some other shifters mount the shifter much higher-thus the rods are straighter. I agree with the clean and lube posts......


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  14. Sunday driver
    Joined: Sep 30, 2014
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    Sunday driver

    I haven't taken it apart yet but I think I might have too .
    Shifts fine for all but left into the reverse ready position , that takes two hands , then slides forward into reverse easy
    It's for a channeled 32 ford coupe , thanks for the replys




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  15. chubbie
    Joined: Jan 14, 2009
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    OK, thats not all bad. the HURST comp + shifter wont go "left" for reverse with out a "nudge" to the left. I have to think about how i do it:cool:. I pull it to the left and wiggle forward and back a little and it will pop over to the "other side". It's made that way, so you cant down shift to reverse:mad:. my new Hurst comp + is real stiff in the area and another i have is "broke in" and has less resistance. My model A has a homemade "guess gear" shifter without this feature. almost impossible to find first gear.
     
  16. What Mr48 said.

    You may also take a good look at the adjustment and make sure that it is really in neutral and not just close to being in neutral when you are trying to get into reverse. I have seen them that needed adjustment before, they would go into reverse but way easier after adjustment.
     
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  17. If it sat for 25 years the grease has dried up. Like everyone else has said; take if apart and clean the old dried grease off plates. Then lube the plates liberally. you will be amazed how well it works afterwards.
     
  18. seb fontana
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    Hurst used to sell grease for their shifters, I found it worked the best and lasted a long time..Don't think they sell it any more...And yes that lever being that short can take a lot of effort to get over to the reverse gate, clamp a foot or so of bar stock onto the present handle and see how it feels..One car I drove had the same issue and for me it was learning to slap it over and forward into reverse before it could bounce back..
     
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  19. Johnny Gee
    Joined: Dec 3, 2009
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    I think every one is missing your question. Your say that when you pull the shifter left towards your leg, first there is soft tension when you go from 3-4 neutral to 1-2 neutral. But then when you continue to go into reverse in neutral postion it get's harder. This is normal, but again I can't feel what your feeling to say if it's to much force needed and your shiter has a problem. The reason reverse is so hard is because there is a "Secondary" much stronger spring that help keep your shifter stay in only the "H" pattern and is only for reverse. I hope this helps.
     
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