Denny, The Model Y is a totally different animal... Nothing to do with the Deuces discussed here since, as you mention, the Model Y is a lot smaller than the B/18.
The Y was an ENTIRELY different car, sharing nothing with USA Fords. Design was very much Ford, and many parts look a great deal like midget replicas of US Ford. Supposedly Edsel saw early drawings of the Y and incorporated them into Model 40 design, but I don't think this can be documented. First Y types were released during 1932. Much smaller car for those who couldn't afford to feed or pay taxes on a big Ford, so small that nothing could interchange. The Y eventually evolved into the Anglia, the only British Ford to have any real distribution here, and into a considerable family of small 4 cylinder Ford sold and built all over Europe.
Thanks Bruce, but what I might not have been clear on is the (Brit) produced 32's being produced in the same time frame of the (Brit) 33-34's with (US) style grille assemblies. If that makes sense.
I really don't know. I think they made Model 40's too, probably mostly from Canadian parts. And they kept B powered AA's in production for many years, too, just to confuse the chronology. They had significant investment in the '33-4 deuces, with restyled (looks much like '33) dashboards and the new fenders. I have no idea how many of those were made, whether there was significant production or just assembly of a few chassis still in the warehouse. Elsewhere in Europe, a very few '32's were assembled in later years from leftover kits sent to the tiny plants in places like Denmark, but those were pretty much standard '32's into 1935 or so! Ford Germany, by the way, rapidly became a full-fledged factory, and produced 1932 type BB's into early WWII.
Jean-Luc Louasil's Tudor built by Ford France in 1932 ... and his '32 3W... (Though not a European-built Deuce, a very cool ride)
Interesting stuff guys, sorry about my generalizing when I used the term"Brit" when referring to the Euro. deuces.
Interesting car, Maverick. This one wasn't built by Ford Germany, but an independent coachbuilder. I'm pretty sure it was built by Karrosserie Deutsch in Cologne.
This Tudor barn find was recently for sale in Denmark. Note dual glove boxes, typical of European Deuces.
I've seen a couple of original unrestored 32 sedan with chromed grille shell (1 in France, 1 in Germany), is that an attempt to make the car look more luxurious toward the end of the production or even to try to sell leftover in later years?
Chris, as mentioned further up, the Dagenham factory (UK) continued producing the Deuce in 1933 and 1934. By '34, the car didn't sell well; so Ford UK "blinged" it with a few accessories and chrome in order to make it more appealing - I've seen a few pictures of '34 UK models with chrome grille shells. But as far as the European continent, I'm not sure how some cars ended up with a chrome grille.
As mentioned when I started this thread (see Page 1), I bought a ’32 Tudor in France. It was supposed to arrive in Long Beach, CA yesterday; but the container will be here on the 28th. Can’t wait! (Photo: Seb Oldsteel)
It's bit of a mystery... Records are pretty much non existent. One number I have heard is 2200 Tudor sedans built in the UK in 1932. The rest of Europe? Who knows, but certainly not many!
57snrf--Great thread idea and contributions. Question on Euro. deuce 5 windows. The bulk of this thread has been about Euro. sedans, I may have missed it in this thread, but I have yet to see any mention or photos of 5 Ws with front opening doors, was there ever such a thing built.
they did 2 and 4 door sedan.have seen English 3 window rhd.same as the norm.no 5 window made as far as I know.
What Perry says. You can see a picture of a European Fordor on Page 1 of this topic. Here is another Fordor stocker.
Only the sedans had the bodies built there. Other British '32's got Canadian sourced bodies, just like ours. I think some of the countries were sourced out of USA. Another odd body...Germany built '32 type BB trucks into WWII. These got the front of our truck cab, but after first few years the Germans built a new bulged out back on the cab, presumably makeng the drivers a lot more comfortable. England kept on producing AA's, but upgraded to B engines and later the '34 full floting rears...
I found a few pics online, snapshots taken on a holiday in Russia, I think. I've never seen a very good picture, but most of cab evolved into something resembling later pickups. These things are all 1932 type BB's, but manufactured at least up to 1940. I do not know when the cab roof and back changed. I was corresponding for a while with a HAMBer who found one in Finland, oddly it had what seemed to be German Army serial stampings, so Lord only knows how it got to Finland. I assume these were sold in civilian form too, until preparation for WWII took over completely. (More, from a book I have on Fords of the German army: The straight across headlight bar marks these as built after 1932. Only those built in '32 had curved bar.) And another evolutionary note. Found another Wehrmacht BB pic online showing the '34 type full floater rear axle, so the Germans too upgraded the rear when the stouter one became available. The vehicle shown according to the site was a German Railroad truck, drafted into the army like almost all '32 up Fords were by 1941.
Youenn Perrin's Fordor from France. Car is not chopped but heavily channeled. Cool details include a Delage grille and Marchal Trilux headlights. (Photos: http://otherdrive.blogspot.com/ via the Euro Deuce Facebook page)
I saw this one in Brandon, Manitoba, Canada a couple of years ago. The fellow told me that his dad had built it in England in about 1959 with the chop and bobbed fenders and the later flathead. It was once kind of a brownish color.
This one started as the remains of a european deuce,but was converted into this... Didn't need the rear seat.
Love the final result. And here is a picture of a mildly rodded example from the small European country of Luxemburg.
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