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Projects 1927 T Tudor sedan

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Dustan, Mar 4, 2015.

  1. Dick Stevens
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    When you upload the pictures, it gives you the option to make them full sized, just select that option and they will be done, you can go back and edit the old pictures too, I believe.
     
  2. Dustan
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    Got it! Went back and edited everything. Looks much better
     
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  3. Dustan
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    Did a little clearancing. Heated and bent the brake arm from speedway to make as much room as possible. Then got it tacked in. Need to get me some 3/8" plate to fab up a new vega box mount. I would have had it made and tacked in tonight if I had the metal here. image.jpg image.jpg
     
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  4. Dustan
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    I have been busy so I haven't posted in a while. Here's what I've been up to. image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg
     
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  5. Dick Stevens
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    Do you plan to lower the grille shell? It will look much better if it is not higher than the cowl. I like the look of a tall T 2-door so much, I think it is my favorite style, bar none. :cool:
     
  6. Dustan
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    I would love to lower the radiator but I don't really see a way to do it. I don't like how high the radiator sits but I also hate the suicide perch so I decided to z the front 4". That screwed me as far as having a high radiator. If I was to do it all again I would have not done a z in the front at all and I would have done spring behind. Oh well I plan on having a bit of fun with this and getting rid of it to do another. So next time I will know what not to do.
     
  7. Dustan
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    Worked on the radiator shell for a while tonight. Sectioned and pie cut everywhere and I'm still not really satisfied with it. I might buy another and start over. image.jpg
     
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  8. Mr. Mac
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    I did one of those a few years back. Good luck on your build looks like your well on your way. 27 sedan 8-16-06 003 (Medium).jpg
     
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  9. Dustan
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    Started making some templates for my toe board today. image.jpg
     
  10. Dustan
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    Made a little progress tonight. Got the upper and lower column mounts made and tacked in. Also got all of the steering mocked up and where I want it. Also made my lake pipe primary block off plates. image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg
     
  11. Dustan
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    Started doing my floor bracing image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg
     
  12. Dustan
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    Made my floors and toe board today. image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg
     
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  13. Dustan
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    Finally sitting on the springs all the way around. About all of the floor supports are done too. image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg
     
  14. earlymopar
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    You're doing a fine job of fabrication and you're one heck of a lot faster than me! The one thing I see that strikes me as out of place (literally), is the grill shell. I've never cared much for chopped or sectioned shells on anything because it changes the proportions too much. Yours is also mounted higher than normal (or at least appears to be) which really conflicts with the body being channeled and much lower than the shell.

    - EM
     
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  15. Dustan
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    Thank you and I am a body technician by trade so that contributes to being a little faster I think. But still I have never done a car like this yet. But I'm only 25 so I have many more to build in the future and they will only get better. I don't like th grille shell that high either but I honestly don't know what else to do with it... I would like to lower it but I don't want the bottom hose between the spring and axel. Next time I make one i will do spring behind and not z the front of the frame 4". That is what is messing me all up proportion wise.
     
  16. Dustan
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    I would also love to be able to drive it to the end of the world rod run in Longbeach wa this September so I'm trying to kick ass and get it done.
     
  17. Dick Stevens
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    Time to figure out how you are going to handle getting the grille shell much lower, it needs to be no higher than the cowl or it will not look good. Do your research now while it easier to make it happen. You will regret it if you ignore it until later.
     
  18. Dustan
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    Yeah it sucks but the radiator would have to go like 4" lower and I don't see that happening so I will deal with it for a while and sell it. Then i won't let the same thing happen next time.
     
  19. Dick Stevens
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    You do have some choices to make, 3 possibilities are, you could opt to not channel it as much, redo the frame, or look into doing something different with the radiator. Now it is up to you what you choose to do, it is easier and cheaper to make changes early in the build than later.
     
  20. Blue One
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    I agree. that radiator looks really funny sitting way up there like that.
     
  21. verde742
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    with THAT grille/radiator that high, I am outta here,, maybe check back later.....
    just kills it... IMO
     
  22. Dustan
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    This is really the only option and I don't really want the hose between the spring and axel... But it does look better for sure. image.jpg image.jpg
     
  23. Mr. Mac
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    Un channel the body some and you might solve your problem. Just sayin
     
  24. Dustan
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    Body is only 4" and the problem is the frame has a 4" z also. The radiator is chopped but only like 4-5" not 8
     
  25. volvobrynk
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    I know this sound stupid, but if you un-section the cowl, i know it ain't sectioned. But please try to follow my though for a moment, sleep on it as then forget it if you don't like it.

    The firewall is very small, and the cowl makes a
    Massive drop, that makes the engine look giant, and the grill look big and tall. And if you channel the car it gets worth.

    But if you modify the cowl, cuts it in half and lift it a couple of inches, and do a 28-29 style top on it.
    Maybe post some pictures of it on the "to end all photoshop" thread, you might get some Ideas of how it looks?

    Because the model a grill looks almost taller then a stock model t cowl, and it takes a lot of butchering to get them to line up.

    Just a thought. Or just my two cents.
     
  26. Dustan
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    Yeah I will figure something out. I do want to get the other style grille shell. That will help a bit. If I end up putting the rad out front I honestly don't ever see the axel coming up high enough to hit the neck. But idk.
     
  27. Blue One
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    What it comes down to is that the body is channelled way too low.
    When you consider that the distributor sits up taller than the cowl, it starts looking ridiculous and leads to problems you are experiencing like the rad issue.
    Interior space will be less than desirable as well.
     
  28. manyolcars
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    Blue one is exactly correct. Bringing the body up to traditional levels will look better, the radiator will look better and the rear tires can fit the wheel well properly. I admire your work, skills, ability and your eagerness. If you are building to sell, build to fit a wider audience, not so extreme.
     
  29. brad2v
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    The above advice is good. You should take it. You have excellent skills, unchanneling it some would not be a huge undertaking for you. Plus, it would go a long way toward improving it's proportions, in addition to allowing a potential buyer to actually fit in and drive it.
     
  30. Dustan
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    Thanks guys. I know it's a little xtreme but it's what I wanted. I'm not really building it to sell but if someone offers up some cash I will sell it later down the road. But I don't need money so it could be 10 years later and I wouldn't care. There is plenty of room inside how it's setup right now. When I bolt the body all down I might toy with putting some 1" blocks under it to get it where the distributor isn't so high. All in all I'm pretty happy with it. Those 2 things are the only parts that really bug me and they honestly don't bug me enough to completely reconstruct my frame or floor.
     

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