Projects The bucket of ugly! A de-uglifying thread...

Heck, I thought our system here in New Zealand was tough to go through but after reading the last couple of pages, we have it sweet over here with our Certification system, VIN requirements and then legal inspection, WOF, and finally Registration. the VIN, WOF and Reggy can mostly be done in one place, eg. vehicle testing station, and it is only the Cert that can cause a hardache at times and that is more due to the low number of people authorized to complete them so there is a waiting list in some areas.

 

Titling as a Model T isn't necessarily a dishonest thing. Saying the car IS a 1923 T is, but when your over on SEMA's website, read their Model Street Rod Titling and Registration Bill. The short version is this:
A "Street Rod" (I know we hate that term around here, but it's what they used):
(1) Is a 1948 or older vehicle; or the vehicle was manufactured after 1948 to resemble a vehicle manufactured before 1949; and
(2) Has been altered from the manufacturer's original design; or has a body constructed from non-original materials.
Basically, it's based on the Vehicle your car most closely resembles. Now, as far as I know Kentucky has yet to adopt that Legislation, but they may not have because they already have something similar on the books. Only way to find out for sure is to read the statues and ask questions. All may not be lost on the stuff you already bought, if the businesses are not in existence any more, no one's around to say they didn't give you documentation. You could also buy another block (with documentation) and swap all your guts into it (since the block is the only component of the engine that has a partial vin on it), then sell your block to someone who isn't building a car from the ground up (or use as a core to the shop / yard you buy yours from.

 

If it were just the engine, I could deal with that. At this point I have all the major components to build this thing except the frame, spindles, front brakes, the radiator, rear wheels, and tires. Of all of it, there is only one single item that was not bought via online transaction...the rear axle. Of the rest that was bought online, probably half or more was bought on ebay. If they do not accept ebay and/or paypal documentation, I'm screwed.

 

I guess that is one thing better about Nebraska, they don't pull those kinds of shenanigans on us, we pay sales taxes on what iwe actually paid for it, not what they think it should be worth. Like you said, do your research because it is state by state how they handle these things.

 

Bill, quit wringing your hands over this and worrying about how it is going to play out, contact the DMV for clarification on all of these questions and what you need to do to be able to accomplish your build. Then you can move forward and accomplish what you have been planning to do.

 

Yeah, I'm a worrier by nature. It's a side effect from being the poster boy for Murphy's Law...LOL.

I've been in the KY state web site maze for a good part of the afternoon to no avail. I guess I'll have to park my wheelchair in the local DMV office until I can get definitive answers...and where I can look for the up to date info down the road. We're veterans of un-notified mid project zoning law changes, and I can see the potential for the same kind of thing here.

 

Bill

Try the yellow pages. My guys business card says "LICENSE REGISTRATION SERVICES". He used to work for the California DMV and he knows all the ins and outs. It really almosts seems like fun for him. Maybe it is. You know it is really worth it. I can see you worry even more than I do and I had a few sleepiness nights worrying about it.

First let me say again about lying at the DMV. Unless they catch you "no foul" and if they do catch you in a lie it is just the embarrassment of getting caught. Ask me how I know. No don't. Ask yourself if you have ever heard of anybody getting into any real trouble trying to register a legal vehicle. Something that isn't HOT and with no stolen parts.

Okay another story. Not mine but a good friends DMV story. This friend isn't a nar-do-well either. Anyway he had an old car to register and had no paper on it so he sent off for a N.Y. registration from an an add he found in a magazine add. As a lot of us have done. Last registered in the early '50s. He took it in and handed it to the person behind the desk at the DMV and she looked at it and yelled across to another person in the office "Did they have purple felt tip pens in the early '50s" The other person said "Oh that is one of those New York registrations. Pass it through" THEY WANT TO REGISTER YOUR VEHICLE.

Gary

 

Yeah, I tend to be a worrier...especially when dealing with bureaucracies. We had a nightmare a few years back when zoning requirements changed with no notice in the middle of an addition on our home.

Before I go any farther with this project, I guess I'll have to camp out at the DMV until I can get a definitive ruling on what they require for parts bought online, and if they require a title for the motor and transmission. If that doesn't work I'll try to find a guy like yours...or get a lawyer involved <cringe>.

 

Wow, this thread fell off the tracks, slid down the hill, flopped upside down in the river, floated downstream to the ocean, ran into an off-shore drilling rig and blew up, destroying the left-handed brine shrimp population in Lower Uncton. Can we get back to de-uglifying T's?

 

I agree, enough of this nonsense

 

I agree to your agree. If we don't get back on track I'll be forced to post another photo of my roadster other than the avatar. Okay I'm looking. I found one better.

 

Does anyone have a scan of Dick Bailey's T roadster from the January, '65 issue of Car Craft? He built it after sitting in the ex-Grabowski roadster at a car show:

 

Agreed, enough of the highjacking of the de-uglifying thread, post some more pictures Gary, I'm all for it

 

I know this isn't a street car, but wouldn't it be cool to have something just like this to run around in? Al Palamedis' T:

(maybe with front brakes....)

 

Amen! I'd love to see some more de-uglification (new word I just trademarked ). I wish I had a T to add to the mix but not right now, just a '15 cowl top - I guess it could be a start!

Steve

 

I apologize for my part in that detour.

 

Okay lets talk about LARS.
I'm going to be in the swap area with the roadster and the flame truck. Come see me I'll be swapping. Shouldn't hard to find me. I plan to be there all Saturday and Sunday except for pit stops.
Gary

 

Buzz Pitzen's built-specifically-to-get-on-the-cover-of-Hot-Rod T:

 

Ah! The first glass t-bucket!

 

Here is a modern day version of that car, they are fun to drive on the street, with front brakes of course.

 

And I'll be right there with a grin so wide you'd think I'd won the lottery
ps love your car Marty

 

I found some photo's of an old T Roadster that was build way back in the 60's that I thought was neat excluding the wooden back but it is still an awesome example of what was happening back then.

 

Angles Angles Angles. Mark your right about the wooden bed being ugly. This guy should have stepped back and noticed all the conflicting angles. Other than being too deep on the side (I guess to cover the Zd frame) the wooden bed doesn't follow the lines of the body.
Late '60s when wood and white were king.
Oh yeah I said I wouldn't criticize cars anymore. Oh well that is what Chip's thread is about.
Hope we got all the DMV shit out of our systems.
Lets get back to ripping each others buckets apart. Verbally and literally.

Gary

 

Notice the sign ? It was done very poorly
Check out the spelling of the words.
Sign painters should be better than that
Oh and the wood and vertical steering column aren't doing it for me

 

I have always been in awe of track roadsters, primarily because even though they were built with function put before form they turned out beautiful anyway. There's a lesson there I think...

 

I totally agree with you, but the lights are ugly too.
I just re read the sign, and that is some iffy spelling, but I totally missed first time around.
Maybe because it could have been my bad spelling.

 

I have a question for you Norm Grabowski aficionados (that's fans for you that don't know). I found this posted on another site. It said that Norm built this truck based on the time worn joke, is it true and if so does anyone have any more pictures or details of it.

Henway2 by k1w1rodder posted May 21, 2015 at 3:10 PM

Henway by k1w1rodder posted May 21, 2015 at 3:11 PM

please please tell me you know it cause I wanna build it.

 

What's a Henway? About two pounds.

 

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/norm-grabowskis-henway-truck.24945/

 

What is this body.....is it stock length? It looks like it has more interior room than most T's.