Who has a STRAIGHT 6 in your HotRod? Come On, stand up!

The 240/300 is about 3 inches longer. It has 4-inch bores. Other advantages are 7 main crank, 12 port heads, available forged 300 cranks, detachable manifolds, gear driven cam, and lots of speed equipment

 

Small Ford sixes were designed for the Falcon.
Big Ford sixes were designed for full-sized cars and light trucks.
200 & 250 share the same bore but have radically different strokes.
I always wanted to put a 250 in a first gen Bronco. Complete it with a T-10, Spicer 18 and a pair 8" axles.
Would be a nice little trail runner.
300 is basically a 352 piston running on a modified 428 crank....at least that's how I like to think of it.

 

not 6 but I got 8 in a row

 

A friend wants to put a six in his '35 Ford pickup that will be his shop truck. My first choice would be a Ford flathead six but he is thinking newer for more dependability and ease finding parts.

 

Looks vintage, drives modern. Sounds like a smart move.

 

Getting another 235 ready for my 37 Chevy p/u,something happened to the first 235 and have been tempted to go with a V8 but it will stay powered by a six.

 

A 352 piston can be used in a 300 six IF the tops are milled about ,050", depending on how much deck height you want to end up with.



A 390 FE piston can also be used but since the standard bore on a 390 is 4.05 that requires an overbore of .050 to work - more than I like to start out with as little material is left for additional clean-up boring.

 

You will also have to match wrist pin bore sizes of the the FE which I think are .975".

 

I'm building up a Falcon-6 200 for my daily. It is getting TBI, and likely a modern aluminum head.

 

Getting ready to put the topend back on my Sprint 6 in my '52 pickup.

 

Let's see, 4 bbl., dual exhaust...if your '52 has a 4-speed, you could tell people you have the world's only 442 pick-up truck!


6narow

 

mounting the mid '30s Dodge tranny with the mid '50s Dodge OD to the late '40s Dodge 230" Six with the '2010s EDGY F-head for the chopped '31 Desoto. I just saw this on FBook. Montana Dodge boys. You don't see one of these every day.

 

I LIKE that.

 

I was blown away when I saw the similar head on Edgerton's old MOPAR pickup at Bonneville a few years ago. It makes me wish my 413 Dodge truck engine wasn't too big for the vintage classes.

 

I don't know if this has been posted and I hope that @dumprat doesn't mind. This 34 Ford is a hot rod and this little flathead 6 was made to go in there. If you are a fan of the inline and getting by with what you got his build thread is one to watch.

 

No worries! Pork! The little six fits like a glove. Even sort fits the original motor mounts.

 

Don't sell the dodge/Plymouth six short. They are easy to get and cheap.

A jeep/AMC 4.0/258 would also be a very good choice.

 

The truck has an s10 T5 in it for anyone wondering. I got the cam tower all painted up last night.

 

Gorgeous!
Nice job, GTA9I.

 

There is a lot of cool stuff here. It saddens me to think of all the great 4 and 6 cylinder engines that were pulled and thrown away to make way for a V8. My dad was a journey machinist and mechanic, his favorite engines were the MOPAR flathead 6s. Lots of low end power and very dependable. As a kid I made many trips between Texas and California in cars and trucks powered by them.

 

In 1945, just after VE day, my mother, dad, brother, dog, and I piled into a '39 Plymouth and drove from Philadelphia to San Francisco. I was to young to remember the trip. To bad. It must have been something. My dad was always a Plymouth man. When I was 15 1/2 he brought home a '48 Plymouth and a '51 De Soto for me. But i wanted a Rocket 88. Maybe I should have paid more attention to him.

 

My car came with a 226 flathead. I really want to keep it in there since everyone has a V8, but the lack of any kind of speed parts is frustrating. When I do actually track some down, the price is so high that it just doesn't seem worth it. I'm not looking to make it into a race car, but I want around 300hp. That would be really easy to do with a 302, I just hate that it is what 1/2 of the shoeboxes have.

 

This '51 was driven from Texas to our Inliner International convention in Carson City, NV in 2012. It won the best Ford award. Our annual show is this Saturday June 6 in Minden, NV. All inlines! Those speed parts are out there, don't give up. I doubt if you'll get 300 hp out of it but it will be very drivable. Also look for an Overdrive trans. They only had about 5 less hp than the V8 flathead and more torque I think, at least it came on at lower rpm.

 

You just want 300 HP from a 226 flathead Ford six? No body ever sold parts for that engine to make 300 hp. Maybe a turbo and lots of Nitrous. Those are good engines. Maybe better than the V8 Ford in '51. But you have to be realistic.

 

LOL! Reminds me of the time a friend pulled up in her '66 Ford Estate wagon. Dad noticed it. I remarked that it was kind of a nice car and he said, "yeah, but never own a car with wood doors. I had a '48 Town & Country with wood doors. Every time you wash the car you gotta refinish the doors. Too much work!".....that's when I told him it was just a paint job. "Oh!" he says.


6narow

 

I agree with the others. 95HP stock. Twin carbs, dual exhaust, maybe an aftermarket head with a little relief work in the valve area, maybe a cam (not too big, don't wanna loose the advantage 4.4" of stroke are giving you). I think maybe 120-150HP is more realistic.
You might be able to pull it off with a 300 (cam, heads, compression, turbo'd, nitrous, manifolds, etc.), but the 226 definitely has the advantage in the coolness department.
Mojo, baby!

6narow

 

I know that the 226 is cooler than most other engines, but getting the power level I want out of it would be crazy expensive.

 

We both missed a lot by not paying as much attention as we should have, we both came out alright though. Well at least you did.

My dad took an old Plymouth business coupe and rigged up a back seat in it for me and my sis. I couldn't begin to tell you the year, I remember my sis helping me over the seat because I still had braces so I was pretty young. He put a smithy on it because all his cars had smithy's back then and he cut the top off the steering wheel. Those things I remember because it was rumbly and the wheel was crooked, I was told later that it was crooked because he cut it while it was parked on the hill outside the house. You curb 'em in San Francisco.

I have had a MOPAR flatty or two since then and they just have a sound all their own. In a light car they are a good motor.

 

This 226-254 discussion has caused to do some searching and thinking. I am going to highly recommend that my friend use one of these in his '35 pickup. Either has plenty of low to mid range power to do any reasonable task. An important part of any build is gearing. My '53 Chevy pickup with a warm 270 GMC,T-5, 3.54 Dana 44, and 28" tires does 90mph at 3,000 rpm. It'll do much more but not with me in it. It'll cruse 70-80 all day and get 17 mpg. Much better at 65. There is no reason a healthy 226 or 254 won't do the same.
My dad put a 230 Dodge flathead 6 in his '52 Dodge pickup. In '59 we pulled the biggest trailer U-Haul had from Texas to California at 50-55 mph. Both the trailer and pickup were grossly overloaded. My Cushman was tied across the tongue. Other than a few vapor locks and blown out old tires we did fine. It had three on the tree and probably close to 4.11 gears. It was a 1/2 ton and I'm sure it was carrying near a ton not counting the trailer. For sure there was a complete Flathead V8, for my brothers '39 coupe, a 4 cylinder OHV pony motor for a JD diesel and a washer and dryer on boards across the bed rails behind the cab, and all of my dad's tool boxes. The trailer was full with yard tools and mattresses tied to the outside. The Grapes of Wrath II. "We stood on the mountains and we looked to the West it looked like the promised land......"
Sorry, I got carried away, but my point is these engines will do the job. For a driver 300 hp is rarely useable. Not a bad thing to have but rarely useable.

 

The Ford Flathead 6 has a lot of low end power, but my dad never had anything good to say about it.
There was some problem with the valve train that Ford could never work out.
It ate cams, or followers...something like that.
Otherwise, hell of a motor.
Dad always had high praise for the Continental 226. That's the engine company, not the car. He was a diesel mechanic most of his life and he always said if you set that Continental to 1800 RPM and hooked it to a 10KW generator, it would hum along all day long without protest. One of his favourites. Jeep used them in their pick-up and COE vehicles (maybe the Station Wagon, too?).


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