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Hot Rods chrome pricing?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by JOECOOL, Apr 4, 2015.

  1. 56premiere
    Joined: Mar 8, 2011
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    56premiere
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    from oregon

    The bumpers on my Lincoln f&r was 1250.
     
  2. sudzhis
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    sudzhis
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    from Latvia

    Each or both? How about quality?
     
  3. falcongeorge
    Joined: Aug 26, 2010
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    falcongeorge
    Member
    from BC

    "bumpers f&r" would be both. Really nice work on the pot metal pieces, I have some pot metal lancer spinners that need plating, I may look into shipping. Are you doing hexavalent or trivalent?
     
  4. DDDenny
    Joined: Feb 6, 2015
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    DDDenny
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    from oregon

    George---
    You may want to double up on your overseas shipping insurance (both directions).
     
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  5. 56premiere
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    56premiere
    Member
    from oregon

    That was all the parts, 2pieces on front and 3 on rear. The quality is very nice and guaranteed forever. Salt Lake Chrome in Salt Lake Utah. Your work is very nice
     
  6. sudzhis
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    sudzhis
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    from Latvia

    Like all know pot metal is pain in the ass! :( But we do it a lot. Have no time to photo, but now is full lincoln, full cadillac of potmetal! Ahh,..! Chrome is show chrome not hard chrome...
     
  7. sudzhis
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    sudzhis
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    from Latvia

    Potmetal! Cadillac DeVille

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  8. Yeah , and its about pricing.
    So what did that pile of caddy parts cost?
     
  9. sudzhis
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    sudzhis
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    from Latvia

    There is little more parts that isn't on photo, parts was in very bad mood, and price is some 800 eur for this!
     
  10. Two headlight bezels and a flying goddess hood ornament - about $850, and it's gonna take twelve weeks before it's ready. :( On the bright side, they'll look GREAT when they return.
     
  11. falcongeorge
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    falcongeorge
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    from BC

    pot metal parts are extremely labour intensive, and while I am quite comfortable prepping most steel or cast parts for plating, prepping pot metal (filling the pits) is outside my skill set. Its easy to ruin a pot metal part while prepping it. You pretty much just have to suck it up and pay the piper on that stuff.
     
  12. What's wrong with learning to play the pipe ? :p:D

    (Don't let me down, I set you up perfectly)
     
  13. falcongeorge
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    falcongeorge
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    from BC

    I prefer having my pipe played...:D
     
  14. sudzhis
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    sudzhis
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    from Latvia

    No, i cant! Iis some 800km from mine house- and yes i hate that country...
     
  15. sudzhis
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    sudzhis
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    from Latvia

    hah, who cares? :D
     
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  16. sudzhis
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    sudzhis
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    from Latvia

    Cadillac DeVille 1968 4door full bumper set! Only fotos for now, but Almost all parts -done!

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  17. sudzhis
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    sudzhis
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    Some soviet car- "Pobeda" GAZ 20M front bumper (or back, i dont know :D) was in very bad condition :(
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  18. sudzhis
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    sudzhis
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    from Latvia

    MB Pagode 230sl full set of chrome- interior + exterior! Chrome installation in progress...

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  19. sudzhis
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    sudzhis
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    from Latvia

    Bumpers and other stuff mine

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  20. sudzhis
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    sudzhis
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    from Latvia

    Cadillac Deville 68

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  21. moefuzz
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    moefuzz
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    QUOTE "sudzhis" Bumpers and other stuff mine

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    Sudzis,

    First off,
    ...I compliment you on the quality of your work, Please pm me with your address and phone number for future references.
    .. I have no problems shipping items around the world including
    Latvia.

    I am an expat (American) living in Canada and am tired of being ripped off by my once fellow American companies that charge outrageous shipping, usually in the order of 3 or 4++ times the actual cost of shipping.
    I have a hard time understanding why most American vendors will ship free to their own countrymen yet will charge $60US to post a 2 pound small parcel to an American living in Canada.

    I once paid $25US for a hotrod book and shipping was additional $20 via UPS.
    UPS picked up the book, took it to Canadian customs, UPS kindly brokered the book at the border, confirmed it was the same book they picked up in Ohio, and sent the book to me with a bill attached for an additional $40 in brokerage fees.
    Total cost for a $25 hotrod book was $85US or about $100 Canadian.


    .....
    ..........About ten years ago I began to ship Items in/out of Europe and as of today about 50% of the items I ship are delivered to or come from France, Britain, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Germany, Israel, Jordan, Greece, Spain, Italy, India, Pakistan, .............

    ..Most recently, I have had to import (many) Extremely rare OEM/Original Electronic parts from Croatia Some of them large and bulky. There has been no problems and shipping was FAIR.
    Indeed, there has never been a problem with Shipping From Europe and I appreciate the fact that Shipping quotes are Honest and not over inflated by +400%.

    There is also No import or export duties/taxes to Europe unlike the 10 to 15%+ percent I pay on shipments to/from USA.
    ...I suggest that my fellow Canadians (on this forum) who complain about the cost of shipping parts to/from Europe without even knowing what the actual shipping costs are should get their heads out of their respective asses and/or stop expecting everything for cheap or free.


    Since 1998, as a private citizen (not a company) I have imported and/or exported ~$200,000US with ~2500 customers for/and/or/on goods paid for thru paypal, via Bank Drafts and even at times foreign currency discretely tucked into an envelope and mailed thru the post. ..

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    I have no problem with the thought of shipping parts to you or to Europe and/or with being dealt with in an honest manner.
    Sadly, I cannot say that about many of the vendors I have unfortunately had to deal with just a few hundred miles across our shared border.




    In retrospect, It may be all fine and dandy for American citizens to ship things across their country for little or no money but when a company like SOCAL expects me to be happy about paying $58US (~$80 Canadian) to ship a 2 pound box containing 4 baby moon center caps - - -after seeing the $21 postage paid sticker on the box- - -
    then they can shove it up their a$$.


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    I will find Alternatives
    and I have no problems shipping many thousands of items around the world including
    Latvia.



    jmho and I am opinionated.
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  22. sudzhis
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    sudzhis
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    from Latvia

    Few square feet of chrome!

    DeVille 1968

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  23. Moefuzz,

    I have a good friend in MN that ran a family machine shop for decades and supplied parts to several drag racers in Manitoba. He indicated that about 1/5 of all the parts shipped to CANADA had "problems" with CANADIAN customs charging additional mystery fees, holding shipments hostage, shipments missing/lost, shipments returned with no explanation, etc...

    Why do several Manitoba Companies that I know have shipping addresses just across the border and pay employees to spend hours to drive across the border and get their deliveries? Is it because they want to pay their employees 4 hours of windshield time?

    I personally delivered parts after CANADIAN CUSTOMS screwed around for 3 weeks deciding what they thought value of the blower drive gear set should be, whether is was actual car parts or industrial machine equipment and whether enough duty/pst/gst had been declared and paid. (ended up costing Keith $62 US in fees (no shipping) on a $250 used gear set) and why do they add the cost of shipping and insurance to calculate duty, pst and gst?

    So... maybe your rant should be with Canadian Customs.

    I would hazard to guess ANY and EVERY American Supplier that has to ship to buyers in Canada would want to cover their ass and get paid for the hassle of dealing with the customs mess CREATED by the country you chose to live in.
     
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  24. Shippers DO NOT pay any additional cost to Canadian Customs the receiver of the goods does so blaming customs for padding shipping costs doesn't fly. They add the cost of shipping and insurance to calculate all those things because it is a service. GST (goods and SERVICE tax)The reason companies have addresses on the other side of the border has nothing to do with customs you pay duty and gst/pst even if you drive across and pick it up it has to do with the fact that shipping companies charge outrageous amounts once the package has to cross the boarder.
     
  25. K13,

    I stand corrected.

    IF the "fees" are inflated by UPS, Fed-ex, etc.. and go into their corporate pockets, then Moefuzz's point still has NOTHING to do with American Suppliers but the "inflated fees" from the shipping providers.

    I do know that it took 4 days longer for 2 car show t-shirts in a 14oz package to cover the 700 miles from Montana to Morris MB than it did to get the exact same package 4500 miles to Hailsham UK (mailed them both USPS at the same time) and the cost to UK was only a couple dollars more.
     
  26. falcongeorge
    Joined: Aug 26, 2010
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    falcongeorge
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    from BC

    Actually, you are both 1/2 right. As a general rule, we get fucked on both ends, first by a lot of American companies that pad their shipping, then once more by Canadian customs...And if you are stupid enough to let anyone ship you anything by UPS, they throw a bone into you too. Once I round up a 4th short bar lancer, I will be sending the flippers and a couple horn rings and a few other pot metal parts off to Latvia.
    As for K13, I was just charged $48 gst/pst on my doorstep yesterday, on $150 worth of parts. That works out to 32% tax. Yea, I can dispute that, assuming I want to hire a lawyer and take Canada Customs to court...:rolleyes: So tell someone else that Canada customs isn't fucking us, I'm not really in the mood to hear it right now.

    Just to be clear, I have been buying a lot off the HAMB classifieds lately, no HAMBer has padded the shipping yet, but a few aftermarket vendors have...
     
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2015
  27. At what point did I say Canada Customs wasn't a problem? I simply said using Canada Customs as an excuse for the shipper to pad their shipping cost was irrelevant because they don't pay it. He questioned why shipping and insurance was included in what was charged for GST so I explained that as well again nothing about how well customs does their job. You might want to actually read my post before you start throwing shit.
     
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  28. Blue One
    Joined: Feb 6, 2010
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    Blue One
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    from Alberta

    This has been a good discussion on the ups and downs of chrome plating and we have seen some nice work from our friend in Latvia.

    I don't think that it has been very productive to have the long winded bs rant added in about shipping etc.

    No one here has been looking for anything for free or really cheap, just having a good general discussion on chrome plating.

    I'd love to see "somone" actually put their money where their mouth is and ship some parts to Latvia and then tell us all about it.
     
  29. falcongeorge
    Joined: Aug 26, 2010
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    falcongeorge
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    from BC

    I'm not going to until I have a 4th lancer cap, for obvious reasons. Once I round up another decent cap, I'll sent the flippers to him.
     
  30. Blue One
    Joined: Feb 6, 2010
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    Blue One
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    from Alberta

    Just so you know George I wasn't referring to you as the someone :D
    I plan to ask him for a quote myself. Wonder what the best and safest shipping method would be to Latvia :confused: :)
     

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