Technical Slant /4 from a V8

Oh sorry pork accidentally deleted the the post about .... It wasn't the .........Censuring
me lol

No she left the next guy broke and homeless cheating basterd

 

I just typed flat head four in google and this showed up in images

 

If i used the pontiac id have to drive on the wrong side of the road LMAO

 

Rich I like you
That is the best solution i have seen yet much less unobtainium involved then a
$6000 race only block
Parts for the pontiac i.e the timing chain tensioner
Will the poly heads fit on that engine?

 

I looked at Plymouth 259 Poly heads. To short. DeSoto Hemi heads were perfect. Except for the exhaust pushrod. I gave up on it. But after this LA deal I kind of think I have an idea of how to do it. But, my health keeps me from working on anything these days. So I'm not going to be building ant thing like that.

 

Yes Pontiac had the 196 or thereabouts slant 4. Have most of one sitting in the shop. Block, crank, rods, oil pan.
I always wanted to do one of those V8's that fired 2 cylinders at the same time, but the distributor would be the problem in doing that.

 

How about the poly 318 i see they are similar to the LA heads
Do you have a build thread or a page some where with info on your engine build?

 

As far as i can tell this slant /3 was one of smokey yunicks prototypes from when he was working on when he was working on his hot air engine design

 

With some modern goodies it shouldn't be too hard to get two coils to fire at once

 

What you need is a modern distributorless ignition. I have run the Electro Motive crank trigger ignition and really like it. It fires two plugs at once. Normally one is wasted like my old Honda 350. Or if you look back a rage you will see a picture of how I fired two plugs at once.

 

For the Dodge block I had to cut the LA head in half and make a spacer, and get it welded in to put all the chambers over the cylinders. For the Plymouth block the Small block Ford or Y block has 8 of the bolt holes in the correct location and the bore spacing is close enough

 

Love to see pic of that crank and a pick of the 4cyl rods next to the v8 rods to give a little perspective on how the chief made this mystery mill turn

 

I would love to learn more about this!!
That's awesome.

Is there anybody that can answer this: would it be possible to run some of the excess pistons as a piston blower?

B&W alpha did it on some 4 cylinder blocks for ships, that ran 3 cylindre and a blower. On the crank.

That should work on a SBC too. And if was possible I bet smokey would have done it at some point.
He ran a small booster made from a bellhousing of a manual car just filling it up with something, and had the flywheel work an impeller. Weird and plain awesome!

So if it was done "back in the day", he was the guy to do it.

 

Here is a patent for a flywheel super charger from what i here smokey never patented his version because when he did a patent search he found that most of his idea was already patented and he was high on the hallucinogenic herb called peyote
I guess he wrote a cuple of books ,smokey's power secrets, and
Sex, lies and superspeedways
Here is a patent i found for a fly wheel super charger

And this is the pic I automatically thought of when I read your post
This photo is from wikipidia
As for four pistons feeding four pistons exactly the same size i don't think you would build any boost

 

Ya I know off topic i cant resist a cheat like smokey

 

Franklin had a flywheel blower in 1904 but they used it to air cool the engine. In their ads they said "the only moving part in the cooling system is the flywheel, and as every engine must have a flywheel to run, it is evident that the limit of simplicity has been reached".

 

I bought a new 4 cylinder Pontiac Tempst in '63. The crank was a normal flat four cylinder with counterweights. The rods and pistons were standard 389 Pontiac pieces. Used one 389 head. Even the distributor was based on the V8. Every other plug wire post was a flat blank. It was a good little engine except for the timing chain. Due to the less frequent power pulses the chain needed extra guides. Which broke off and fell into the bottom and allowed a very loose timing chain. I started changing mine at 10,000 miles.

 

only thing is, they usually split horizontally...

 

Do you think a gear driven cam would have worked better like the ihc scout 4cyl and truck v8's
My guess would be to go with a gear with only two gears like the ihc i would have to get a cam with a reversed cam profile?

 

That is true. A gear drive that turns correctly is not hard to buy or build. You can use a second crank gear that would have driven the chain, as am idler gear. You would need to make the mount and adapt the gear to use bearings. But that was how people got gear drives before you could buy them

 

Do a search for "Smokey Yunick adiabatic engine" or "hot vapor engine". He did a lot of work on this in the 80s and had a couple of prototypes running on the roads. Auto company engineers the world over were looking at it. It almost reached production, the drawback was the engine ran at the very limit of overheating, if anything went wrong the engine would burn up in an eye blink.

http://schou.dk/hvce/

 

wha?? I would to see that. Are they using the dead side for anything, compressor etc?

 

Ok here are some pictures of before I had it cleaned. In the one picture you can see the crankshaft standing up in the background next to the pistons in the oil pan. It's covered with dust from the glass beader.

 

I know of the hot vapor fiero, I know of it from the www and smokey autobiography. And I liked it.

But it ain't a half V8, it's a 4 banger. I know 4 is half of 8 but not like it's a V8 block.

But I referred to the V8 with a block of plate instead of the one head. Go a couple pages back.

 

I believe Pontiac did this with the 389 to test out the feasibility of making their slant 4.

 

I believe it started life as a v6 but what ever

 

Do you still have the counter weights?

 

The kit to do that was made by Crower Cams.

 

Thanks for your post i started looking a little closer a Saab because of it i forgot what you said in tell I read it again thanks again

 

So the saab engine because it was an engine derived from a british engine leans to the left
Thats ware the ether half of all those pontiac and ihc v8s went
The kids clam 500 hp stock internals just dialling up the boot and fuel
Im seeing hole running turbo 9000 saab for less the a thousand