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Projects C3B and an 1850

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by El Caballo, Mar 12, 2016.

  1. El Caballo
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
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    image.jpeg image.jpeg image.jpeg image.jpeg image.jpeg Looks like the carb was spray painted flat black in the horn & venturis. (probably has red floats and whitewall o-rings somewhere in there) ;)

    Just something I got for the 283.
     
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  2. oj
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    Comes from raw fuel, carb needs rebuilding.
     
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  3. falcongeorge
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    Yup, and those needle/seat****emblies are from a cheapo rebuild kit. Not feelin' the love here, I wouldn't even use that junk. Check the threads for the needle/seats before you replace the needle/seats as well as the adjustment nuts/screws with Holley ones, that junk tends to chew up the threads.
     
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  4. INVISIBLEKID
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    Spray painted black.......Gotta love it!
     
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  5. falcongeorge
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    is that what you call "Soot black"?:D
     
  6. falcongeorge
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    Its not spray paint guys, as OJ said, its unburned fuel.
     
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  7. INVISIBLEKID
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    In Jest....... A lil rich perhaps? VHT, and Dupli Color isn't showing those colors......:eek:
     
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  8. DDDenny
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    I knew that!
     
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  9. That'll buff out and serve you well. I ran that exact combo on my '40 convert for 20 years or more.
     
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  10. El Caballo
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    It was cheap enough so I don't feel bad at all. I was going to rebuild the carb anyways. It has been almost 20 years since I rebuilt a carb and that was a Ford 4100 that I still have. This will be fun.
     
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  11. falcongeorge
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    Just get rid of those cheapo needle and seats...Probably why the carb is all black inside in the first place...
     
  12. DDDenny
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    It just hit me; The first Holley I ever bought was a brand new 1850, with an aluminum adapter. About 1971, junior in high school, my second car, a 57 BelAir 2dr ht.
    Had a bone stock 1964 283/4GC, had already changed the Fenton shifted 3 speed over to a B-W T-10 with a new Hurst "C" style Comp Plus shifter. After the carb change; then the Appliance headers, that car really came alive. When I blew up the 3.08's; I found a complete 4.11 third member, boy did that little 283 haul****.
     
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  13. falcongeorge
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    A friend of mine ran a very similar combo to yours in a '65 Beaumont Sport Deluxe, and it ran good too. Cant remember what cam was in it, may have been a 350 horse ( this was like 1974) had a Torker on it IIRC, 1850, 283, muncie and 4.10s, nice, quick, clean little car.
    First new Holley I bought was a 650 double pumper.
     
  14. bchctybob
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    Nice score Caballo.
    I've never bought a new carb. Cheap******** that I am, I've always bought used ones and nursed them back to health. I'll have to admit that I'm contemplating buying a new carb of some sort for my '55 F-100 w/302 and C4 though.
    So what are you gonna put the C3B on? 327?
     
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  15. El Caballo
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    Bob, I'm building a 283 that will actually be a 287 because it will be bored .030 over, 601 heads are my only visible nod to post-64 anything. My son is pushing for an Edelbrock 600 since we have one, but a Holley is O.G. and I'm the one with the gold, so I make the rules. :)
     
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  16. Fuzzy Knight
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    A C 3 B is designed for a Holley 3 barrel carb. Not sure how it will work with a standard type Holley 4 barrel!!
     
  17. bchctybob
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    How about an early Chevy AFB on that thing? Remember when they named them by series like; "E series AFB"?
     
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  18. chevy57dude
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    600 CFM #1850 Holley was my 1st aftermarket carb. For a 17 year old, that used piece felt like treasure in my hands. Nice runner on a mild small block. Keeping one around even now because ya never know when someone needs to plop something on their intake.
     
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  19. Got a C3BX and a 1850 Holley sitting on the shelf in the shop. Waiting on inspiration and the right receptacle. Old dual planes are great street runners.
     
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  20. Dooley
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  21. El Caballo
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    Holley seems to fit fine, others who have actually run this combo seem to like it well enough.
     
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  22. Larry T
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    The 3CB will work fine with any square bore carb. About the only difference in it and any other dual plane is that the divider below the carb is cut for the one blade of the secondary.

    As far as the soot goes, I always figure it's reversion/a timing issue (a little retarded). How are jetting problems going to show up on top of the carb (above the venturi). The carb could use a good cleaning, no matter the cause. But maybe I'm wrong, seems to happen a lot.
     
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  23. El Caballo
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    Running fat and maybe a carb backfire?
     
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  24. FritzJr
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    An original Carter AFB will not fit the C3B without an adapter. It only has the Holley bolt pattern.
     
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  25. krgdowdall
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    I believe that there was a couple of versions of C3B manifolds. My C3B manifold has the Holley carb bolt pattern and the oil fill tube is angled to the driver side, as shown. I have see a C3B that had both the original AFB and Holley bolt patterns, and the oil fill tube was angled to the pass side. The C3B X came out later , possibly 70 or 71.
     
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  26. JeffB2
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    I have a very clean C3B I will be listing shortly here no corrosion and good threads,just changed computer operating system and having camera issues so need to figure that out first.
     
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  27. slowmotion
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    Got one on the shelf, earmarked for a future project. $20 at an auction a few years ago, someone had painted it orange. Good period street manifold.
     
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