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Projects Switched from 750 Holley to 600 Edelbrock

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Hdonlybob, Apr 23, 2016.

  1. Hdonlybob
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    Fun day today....the Ol' man here got to help out his Son for a change......instead of the other way around....
    His 350sbc with a mild cam, had a 750 Holley with Holley Intake on it and always has run like crap since he bought it a few hears ago...way over carbed...
    Today we took off the Holley and put on a 600 Edelbrock with an Edelbrock Performer intake...
    Will finish up in a few days...but got the majority of it done today....and all went very well...
    AND...as always the best part for me is every time he upgrades anything he gives me the "Take Offs" so now I have carb and intake to sell. Not a bad deal doncha' think ??
     

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  2. scrap metal 48
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    Nice looking engine.. I think you will be happy with the Edelbrock but you will get a lot of different opinions...
     
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  3. paleot
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    I have a 600 Edlebrock on my bone stock 350 in my 51 F1 no problems runs great
     
  4. chevy57dude
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    Holleys seem to be the most sought after carbs on the used market. If it's a DP, even more so.
     
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  5. tfeverfred
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    Yup. Too bad most don't know how to set them up.
     
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  6. falcongeorge
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    I just bought a matched (this doesnt mean they are "special" like Dave, it means both carbs have the same suffix code, edited for "Drama Dave" so he can sleep at night) pair of 1850's for $40:) at the Mount Vernon swap to put on a tunnel ram, going to put it on my truck later this year.They will need some mods. Lots of edelbrocks for sale, no thanks. I was looking at a pair of 660's to put on my FE, but they had the metering block conversions, i would have to change them back to plates for them to fit, so I passed. I might regret that if I cant find any with the plates in the next few months...
     
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  7. Jibs
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    No I think its great that most don't know how to set them up, means more for me at cheaper prices.
     
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  8. Hdonlybob
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    Just to clarify, the intent of my post was not to start a pissing match on Holley vs Edelbrock..
    We made the switch due to overkill on carburetor CFM only.
    And my personal preference for everyday trouble free driving happens to be what we changed to.
     

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  9. jeffd1988
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    Nice set up. It is nice when you have the ol guys to help ya out especialy you learn alot and even nicer when they give you parts . And yea that edelbrock carb is gona be nice. I have one put on and it performs well. Also mayby want to add a ram air to it it will really bring more mpgs if your going to drive it up on highway
     
  10. tfeverfred
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    Yea, but this is the HAMB and the pro Holley and pro Edelbrock camps went on alert, as soon as they saw your thread title. About the only thing you can do now, is make some popcorn and get comfy.
     
  11. Don's Hot Rods
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    There are Holley people and there are Edelbrock people. I actually like both. On my street engines, I put Edelbrocks because they are simple, they handle dirt better than Holleys, and they are detuned a little for smooth street performance. But on the 355 Chevy I am going to put in my altered, I have a 750 Holley double pumper because I want as much power as possible.

    I sort of adhere to the old saying, "A Holley will win on race day, but an Edelbrock will get you back home !" :D


    Don
     
  12. Hdonlybob
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    Totally agree !!
    My Brother in Law is already interested in the Holley to put on a high HP 383 stroker that he has...
    I am also running the same basic combo using a 500cfm Edelbrock on my bored and cammed 283. Perfect for a daily driver.. :)
     
  13. falcongeorge
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    AWESOME pic!! This needs to be an avatar...
    [​IMG]
    But Edelbrock carbs still suck ass...:D

    Oh and whats better than a Holley?? Two Holleys...DUH!!!:p
     
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  14. Jibs
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    ^^^^^X2
     
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  15. rfraze
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    Hopefully you are aware that Edelbrocks CANNOT handle more than 4-5# of fuel pressure.
     
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  16. gimpyshotrods
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    When it comes to a 4-barrel, I have been installing Edelbrocks exclusively for about 15-years.

    I have not had even one single customer come back and ask for another carburetor to be put on (unless it was 3-deuces, or some other multi-carb setup). I have had more than 30-customers ask for their Holley to be removed.

    If you know what you are doing, they are quick and easy to tune properly.

    I have been able to push SBC's to almost 30MPG with an Edelbrocks. I have pushed strip cars into the low 9's with a pair of them. I have pulled off a Holley, from a car getting 9MPG, put on an Edelbrock, replaced the spark plugs with identical but fresh ones, re-set the timing. When the customer got it back, he swore I swapped the engine. Twenty-one MPG, where there was once just nine. No other changes. Night-and-day.

    I have nothing against Holleys, except that they are way too much trouble to tune, and keep in tune.

    If you enjoy dicking around with carburetor, get a Holley and go for it.

    If you enjoy driving your efficient high-performance car, get an Edelbrock (and a regulator), tune it once, and hit the road.
     
  17. henryj1951
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    holley intakes 40bucks
    holley 750's 25bucks <--- i'll take the carb...lol...:cool:
     
  18. chevy57dude
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    It's not a pissin' match as much as an opinion poll. The OP asked "not a bad deal, huh?'' about getting an intake and Holley to sell. I agree. Good resale on the carb. Got a primo 650 DP on the shelf from someone who, like the OP, replaced it with an Eddy on a mild sbc. Plopped it on and ran great out of the box. Even with a mechanical pump, watch the pressure! That's a $150 piece all day long.
    On the other hand, the 750 DP on my OT El is perfect. 454, L88 intake & cam, converter and 4.11s. Stand on the loud pedal and she romps. No interest in a vacuum secondary carb on that one.
     
  19. elba
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    Holley use to fix carbs free at certain automotive events . Usually had a hundred people in line holding their carbs. That should tell us something. GOOD for racing , not the street. I bought one new one - never again. Replaced it with a q-jet. Just my opinion.
     
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  20. stimpy
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    should have done it and changed them back to the plates , the plates and are in stock and easy to put on ( if you have the special screw driver Bit which you can get at of all places HF ) some of these older style ones are getting harder to find , do not know what people are doing with them ( I know one guy who threw about $1500 of holleys in the trash I would have gave him $$ for the lot ) , I get calls from guys who want to sell or give me there old ones , take them rebuild them ( to book spec) and sell them , but lately ..unless its the new Bling ( aluminum ones ) they do not want them , but he older guys are like who cares what they look like as you cannot see under the hood while its moving ..or the air cleaner is in the way

    as for the OP you will like the crispness of the smaller carb as soon as you get it dialed in .
     
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  21. stimpy
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    and then there is us in the diehard Q jet and 4 jet club who are making little paper mache Holley and EBlock carbs and burn them in effiegy !
     
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  22. 2OLD2FAST
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    "Matched pair " Huh , Too bad there ain't no such thing >>LOL
    dave
     
  23. Hdonlybob
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    I have had that picture for years....I was told it was an authentic picture of testing on a new design on the old leather football helmets.. However, I love it an use it a lot... :)
     
  24. Don's Hot Rods
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    Not true. We were tuning my Sons T bucket yesterday and I glanced at the gauge, he is running at 6 psi and I am running at 7 on mine. Edelbrock states 9 is the limit because that is what most mechanical pumps put out. But I have run them as low as 3 psi and they are ok there too.

    Don
     
  25. rfraze
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    Good for you. Just make sure that the carbs are not waterfalling after you shut them off, by looking down the rear throats. Sounds like you are recommending a regulator, or at least an inline pressure gauge, if running an Edelbrock. On that, we agree.
     
  26. falcongeorge
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    You may be right. He was asking $600 for the pair, I should have made an offer.I have a full set of clutch head screwdrivers, I do lots of carb work.
     
  27. falcongeorge
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    Uhhhh, that means they are both the same list and suffix number...
     
  28. falcongeorge
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    I am in the Q-jet camp, I love them for milder daily driver type small blocks. I have no love for the edelbrock carbs, they arent even as good as the AFB's they are copied off of. I tune my stuff, so the OOB calibration doesnt mean squat to me, thats the big lovey dovey thing with most guys and the edelbrock carbs, the OOB calibration is real close for a 300-350 hp small block... Has nothing to do with how "good" a carb they are. And I would take an AVS over an AFB, any day of the week, the adjustable air door and 3 stage metering rods were a quantum leap over the AFB.
    As far as a mild streeter, I will take a Q-jet over them HANDS-DOWN.
     
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  29. 2OLD2FAST
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    "matched" infers that the are somehow "special" unto themselves , in fact , they are no more & no less than a pair w/ the same numbers , as in , A "Pair" of....although I suppose it sounds cooler to say a matched pair....
    dave
     
  30. stimpy
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    stimpy

    never bought one but I have several in piece on the shelf that were given to me , not even for trade in just given to me to see if I can get them to work , never touched them yet . too busy with other stuff .
     

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