History Grandpas el mirage roadster recreation p.r.c

Also, if you need somebody to run that distributor up for you and make sure everything is cool - drop me a line. I have a Sun distributor machine and all the stuff. Also, I'm very familiar with the LZ conversions - have a couple of them myself. You should try to find some Packard 440 wire and some original Rajay connectors. This is probably what he ran back in the day.

 

^^^Bruce please see above two posts for strong consideration. I'm copying 90 somethin percent of my engine build from high level HAMB'r Bored& Stroked doctrine.
I got some Packard 440 wire because of him. I now am running some cool WireyJoe stuff instead, sorry Dale.
Since I didn't get your stuff out yesterday it's not to late to jam those NOS 440 wires in the shipping box if you want it? And will use it. Wyatt

 

I'm guessing you're looking for a Stilco oil filter.

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Hey bored,
The reason I'm not running a merc crank is to save money. The motor has been ported and relived already the flywheel has been lightened up also. It was balanced by the last machine shop who built it. My machine shop says who ever machined this motor really knew their sh$t. Not a hack job so he says he wouldent even need to balance it again. If I go with a 4" crank then the hole motor will have to be rebalanced. They also say the Howard's f10 is a full race cam and to big for this motor, and what I'm trying to do with this car. They say if I use the f10 cam then it would be better to have a heavier flywheel then a lightened up one??? I'm no expert but I do know this machine shop builds some really high end race motors. I have friends who only run their motors in race cars. What are your feelings about this. I don't want a engine that only likes high rpms. I want a street motor not a flat out hammered down race motor. I have a race motor in an old car and its a pain to drive on the street it only likes to go fast.

 

Do you have any pictures of these rajay connectors. I have a guy here that is a flathead guru and can set up the kurten. He has a sun machine also and can test the coils. He the one I got the Howard's cam from he took it out of a car for a guy because he says it was a pain to drive. The owner was also 81 and it was in a 41 ford coupe. Chuck says it was the most powered flathead he's ever driven but sucked at low rpms. This is why I'm worried about using it.

 

Hell ya Wyatt if those wires are good I would love to use them. I already know I can't use these orange ones.

 

If you're going to have the lower cubes (not a stroker crank), then this cam would be a bit big . . . would sound nice, but not have much lower-end power. An Isky 1007B would be a good cam - the Winfield does nothing for me. What rear end gears do you have in it and what diameter tires? If the coil ends up needing to be redone, have Skip do it - he can rewire it. Definitely have the distributor gone through, the curve checked, the points checked, etc (along with the coil). Some of these old conversions run well, some have been screwed with and have issues (many of them). Ask your Gramps what type of dual-coil he ran? Was it a Harman-Collins crab style?

CAM: Since you have a stock cam core, you should have Pete Samuelson grind you a cam. He does really great work and has been grinding flathead cams for at least 50 years. He is also one of the MOST knowledgable guys there is on flatheads - and he's a part of the FlatCad crew (knows his stuff). You can contact him here on the HAMB - and he is very reasonable as compared to the retail boys. Then, sell the F-10. If you're looking for a trade - I can have Pete grind a cam and I'll trade you - as I don't have one of these in my "cam collection". I'd like to profile it and put it into my database of profiles and lift curves (just to see what it really is).

 

I'm running 3.78 gears. Tires I have not locked down yet. I don't have a stock cam the one that was in the motor has been custom ground. I don't no anything about how it's profiled. In the pictures the Howard's is in the middle and the one from the motor is in the left. The one in right is a stock 49-53

 

Ok I just looked at my box of Packard wire. Turns out there is a catch.

There is only at least 10' of the 440. But maybe double that in the type you see below. I know nothing about the second. Maybe Dale or someone else can chime in. It may not be period? It certainly is old and NOS. I've never wired up a flatty yet, ten feet seems short. You also may want it all to match. Maybe another HAMB'r has a couple more feet?

 

Also my grandpa ran Spaulding ignitions. Not harman and Collins. Lz dual coil . So at 286 cubic inches this f10 Howard would be a good cam??? What is the advantage of the Packard wires. Are they just a bigger diameter??

 

Yea seems alittle short. I'm guessing the longest wire to be around 2-1/2 to 3 feet long. But I'm sure there's still more out there so any and all would be helpfull.

 

Who is skip. Is this the same skip as the water pump guy?????

 

Your grandfather is talking about the type of top bob Lee made "bob Lee top shop" from his picture he drew shows the triangle shape windo insert which was similar to bobs style tops.

 

And Bob Lee was in Pasadena along with George Fabry, so that makes sense. .

 

When he was telling me this I was trying to figure out why he would of done this. With that picture I see what it would really look like. Who knows maybe bob made it for him or he seen bobs and copied it. Iv never seen anything like that so I didn't know what he was talking about. He said his was a solid piece no little window in it. Maybe if he sees this picture he can remember alittle better.

 

Yea ask him, also if you do reproduce the same top remember they were solid glass in the side windows since clear marine vinyl wasn't invented yet. I'm guessing the reasoning behind the the triangle window frame was to have some protection from the colder winter months and also to still have some air flow. I believe there was a solid bar stitched in, in the shape of a triangle around the primiter of the side curtain with the two ends sticking out the bottom so it would fit into the two holes on the top of the roadster door. Also I think the car in the picture was also another PRC members car. I studied Bob Lee tops pretty indepth when I was doing the top on my roadster.

 

I will be recreating the top. I only have one picture of it with the top on. Thank you for posting that picture. Do you have any more pictures like this of this style. I looked up bob on the internet and found nothing. Are these out of books??

 

Yes from the don Montgomery book collection, I'll post more examples.

 

George Kalem 32 roadster ( road runners )


George Williams 29 roadster (lopers)

Both Bob Lee tops.

 

Here is a text message between me and my grandpa.

 

I looked over the cars again and realized they are from different car clubs my bad.

 

That's kool that he knew the name of the glass!!!! You Go Elmer!!!!

 

X 2 Kevin! That's awesome, and he is absolutely right. Go Elmer!

 

Agh, today's Monday, all I want to hear about is the body comin home, Damn it!

 

Not yet end of the week as work has got me pinned down. It's a 10 hour drive so.... More waiting. Sorry y'all it will be worth the wait.

 

Learn something new everyday. This is the stuff that would keep kids interested in school.

 

Awesome! I can't believe he texts too! I'll keep looking for pics of one without the side glass.

 

Found this on the Internet.

 

Grandpa was very close. It's pronounced the way he spelled it, but it's isinglass. I believe that Isen Glass is a trade name for a modern version of the older isinglass.