OK George, guess I was confusing "period correct" and traditional again, LOL! I also was heavily influenced by the oval track scene here, which was more often where you found me rather than the drag strip, unless I was out street racing on a back road somewhere outside town, hell sometimes on the main drag! Oval track cars, even '32s and '34s had spring in front of axle, and used a cut down '37 front cross member as it had less center drop than the others. This lowered the front end without buying a dropped axle that was quite vulnerable in oval racing, and also didn't affect the roll center, making handling better. As you said in your earlier post "traditional" in the HAMB way at least, and "period correct" at least as I lived it here in GA aren't the same.
I probably shouldn't chime in on this "mud fight", "can't we all just get along" but I can't help myself, I have opinions as I was in on the last part of this what we call the "traditional period". My interpretation of the "Traditional period" started after our soldiers came home from WWII with some money in their pockets. Late '45 or '46 and ended when the show circuit started making everything ugly, as everybody started trying to "one up" each other in the Psychedelic middle 60s. First we built all types and quality of "hot rods" depending on how much money we had, what our skill levels were and what our ideals were. I put myself in the picture because in the early '60s I built a "basket case" Harley flathead into and off road bike. Not really a hot rod but the point I want to make when I decided to start driving in on the street I installed an ugly big headlight on it because it was what I had. So big ugly headlights were used in that time period. Yes their were R.R. back in the day. I point out the famous (in our circles) photo of the Clint Eastwood sitting in a really beat up T hot rod, and buy the time I got a ride in the Romeo Palamades roadster with the exhaust running through the tube frame in the late '50s it was pretty beat up. What really turns my stomach is when a car is really nice traditional and then something is really wrong. Their is a K.K.Klone out there that is really nice and almost perfect but it has '60s style curved headlight brackets on it and not the straight angle '50s Tornado brackets the original car had. It just drives me crazy. I know "short trip". Maybe when we are talking about "traditional" we are talking about what parts were used on the vast majority of hot rods of the time frame I mentioned above. Not the few that might have had "big ugly headlights", disk brakes, independent suspensions or other odd things to be seen on a hot rod of the day. Then Georges list above might have some validity. My wife says I started the "retro revolution". Thanks Hon. If so I will have to share that distinction with Von Franko who built his first Kookie Kar Klone in the '80s at the same time I was building mine. I got to know him in maybe '88 when he returned to his car at Goodguys Pleasanton to find me laying on the lawn under it. Ring a traditional bell. Our next meeting was at another Goodguys event later that year when he told me he "followed the smile of my (traditional) V8 60 tube axle across the fairgrounds". Glad he did as I had brought a couple of packages of "traditional" red & white phone cord spaghetti that I wanted to give him. He wrapped the front brake hoses on his car as soon as he left talking to me. I think it is still on the car. We have been friends ever since. I'm sure their were other people building retro cars then. Pete and Jake to name a couple. To sum it up maybe traditional is like R.R.s and porn. Nobody can really describe it but we all know what it is when we see it. Gary
Gary, AFAIK, nobody's fighting, just the constant and ongoing disagreement on what is traditional, and I think Falcon George has finally nailed it with bringing "period correct" into the discussion. George, for the most part gassers have gone away, but Quain Stott and his Southeastern Gassers Association is growing by leaps and bounds down here in the Southeastern part of USA, and the cars are true to pre '67 and the crowds are loving it.
No Dirt I love this shit. You read my "Gettysburg Address" above didn't you? "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin"? But it's fun discussing it. And i get to show my ass. Gary
Well George Baby Shit Green just won "Americas Most Beautiful Roadster". Your not suggesting nepotism are you? Brizio's daughter's husband? I don't know an ugly green street highboy could honestly win over a dozen full fendered, million dollar show cars. I don't know why anybody wants to build and show cars!
hey, just to be clear, I'm not placing any value judgement on period-correct vs HAMB "traditional" just outlining the difference in a humourous way right? I mean hey, you guys know I wouldnt do that, right??
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