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History Cool old shop equipment from my late fathers old machine shop....

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by M-train, Sep 13, 2016.

  1. M-train
    Joined: Apr 22, 2016
    Posts: 30

    M-train

    I thought you guys might be interested in this.

    My father willed all of the tools in his shop to me [thankfully, as I am the only one of three brothers who actually knows how to use tools].

    Anyway, I found a Van Norman INTHEBLOCK crankshaft grinder. Now that I have the manual this thing is pretty amazing in what all it can do. There is a lathe attachment [I don't have that], and an optional arm to do bigger crank journals [for which I do have].
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    An old Growler.
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    And a brake service machine setup for which I need help identifying as I can't find one like it doing an image search. I think its made by Raybestos. Sorry, but I couldn't get it out of the shop today, AND my wife was with me bitching all the way [heat, bad smells, etc].

    So all I was able to get was a few quick pictures, but the machines are very dusty so I wasn't able to get any numbers in the short time I was there. Also, how much is the brake machines worth?
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    Enjoy, and thanks.
     
  2. phat rat
    Joined: Mar 18, 2001
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    phat rat
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    AND my wife was with me bitching all the way [heat, bad smells, etc].

    Bet you leave her at home next time
     
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  3. garyf
    Joined: Aug 11, 2006
    Posts: 333

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    The one with the motor looks like a brake shoe arc grinder. The other looks like it is to install rivets to a brake shoe. I have used ammco arc grinders in the 60s, yours looks a lot older than the ones I have breathed in asbestos from.
     
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  4. M-train
    Joined: Apr 22, 2016
    Posts: 30

    M-train

    You've got that right. I had to go to the dentist today for some really fun root canal, which is why she came along.

    I thought while we were in town I would check on my fathers shop, and try to take some pictures, as there is a bass boat I'm trying to figure out as well.

    There is also a big hunk of steel the looks like the top of a flat head engine block, kinda like a honing plate, but I'm almost sure that isn't what it is. More pictures this week if I don't have problems with the tooth.

    Oh, and the crankshaft grinder. My father told me he worked in an autoparts store back in the 50's. Most of those old parts stores had a machine shop in the back [like my fathers shop, as it was a parts store/machine shop].

    They had one of those block grinders. Dad said there was a guy who worked there that specialized in the grinder, and would go to peoples house to grind the crankshaft while it was in the car.

    Also, from what I've read these intheblock grinders are actually still being used in heavy equipment where its either too costly, or timing consuming to remove the engine.

    Here is a cool Youtube video of one in action.
     
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  5. I would not sell any of it,when you figger out what you have(had) hard to replace.
     
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  6. choppedtudor
    Joined: Nov 28, 2009
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    you had my total, undivided interest until you asked "what is it worth...." shame on you.
     
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  7. BOBCRMAN
    Joined: Nov 10, 2005
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    from Holly

    The picture with the gauge in a small box looking unit. Is a "Growler" used to check out armatures.. There is a brake shoe riveter and an arc grinder for shoes..
    Back in the sixties. For two summers I worked for the school system for min wage and points toward my graduation from High school. Relined tons of International and GMC bus brake shoes and rebuilt starters and generators.. Those sand roads/hills of northern Michigan were hard on drivetrain and brakes on those busses.
    Later I used the crankshaft grinder on old Ford/Case tractors.. Working for the local tractor/equipment dealer.
     
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  8. TR Waters
    Joined: Nov 18, 2006
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    TR Waters
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    from Vermont
    1. Early Hemi Tech

  9. Coming to an auction house near you!!
     
  10. seb fontana
    Joined: Sep 1, 2005
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    seb fontana
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    from ct

    Well so much for sentimental value..:(
     
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  11. Don't know your situation but I have my dads machinist tool box. You can't buy it! It will go to my son. Been trying to figure who gets after him.
     
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  12. Those 2 ebay links look just like m-train's pics.Did you already put them up?Selling fathers tools....Bummer
     
  13. Jalopy Joker
    Joined: Sep 3, 2006
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  14. I still have all of my dads old tools and still use most of them. They probably aren't worth much, but I'd never sell them.
    As I get older, memories become worth more than money.....
     
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  15. I'll be pretty pissed off if this is a sneaky "for sale" thread disguised as tools of interest my dad willed to me.
     
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  16. M-train
    Joined: Apr 22, 2016
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    M-train

    I still have many tools that dad left me.

    I'm not hiding anything as if you looked closely you should have already known I posted the growler, and the intheblock grinder on THE HAMB days before this thread.

    I thought some of you that like seeing old tools would enjoy seeing this, but apparently not.

    I DON'T know what the value is of the brake shoe equipment which is why I asked here, but if you notice I didn't say, whats it worth as ITS FOR SALE!!!!

    Also, I simply have no place, or use for these tools vs the other tools I DO have from my father, and will use in the future.

    I've posted pretty much the same thread on some other car forums I've been a member of since the 90's, and all have been fine with it, sharing stories of working with said tools from back in the day.

    Good grief, this site is definitely living up to its reputation that I've read on other car forums.
     
  17. Petejoe
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    You haven't been around here enough to judge this forum.
    We are dedicated to traditionalism and family in many aspects. If that's not for you then so be it.
     
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  18. seb fontana
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    seb fontana
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    ""Good grief, this site is definitely living up to its reputation that I've read on other car forums.""

    Oh my..
     
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  19. Fortunateson
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    Here is a cool Youtube video of one in action.
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    How in the world would you get EVERY piece of crud out of the block once the job was done?!
     
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  20. saltflats
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    from Missouri

    Hear that guys we have a reputation better make sure we live up to it.
    I had my dad and Grand dads tools tell some ass wipe stole them.
     
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  21. dirty old man
    Joined: Feb 2, 2008
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    Well,I was all primed to tell about my experiences with all those tools, including the in the block crank throw grinder till I read that you have the stuff upfor sale before you even know what it did and how it did it.Fuck it, that's all I can bring myself to type about this.
     
  22. 19Fordy
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    :(Sad!
    Very sad.:(
     
  23. phat rat
    Joined: Mar 18, 2001
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    Some guys bitch about people who have cars they aren't doing anything with. here's a guy who knows he won't be using some machinery and tools and decides to sell them. Ask yourselves this. Is it better to hang on to something someone else might be able to use or let someone else have them. Don't get me wrong I have tools and other things that were my dads also and they date as far back as the 30's also have some of my father-in-laws tools. Are they for sale NO I use them. Think about this. How many of you have the room for some of these tools and would you use them or would they be in the way? None of us have any idea of how big a work space M-train has
     
  24. I think people are harshing on this guy where they give other people slack. No need to jump all over him.
    I avoided posting for years because I didn't feel like being berated. I mostly read build threads and researched old ones. HAMB does have a rep, a lot of people can be dicks, but that's the same with any group of people. Now I'm too old and just don't give a @&$%, and I kinda like a good internet battle.

    That being said, whenever I start reading a thread that I find interesting, then it comes out that someone is just building something to sell or is asking about parts ID just so they can sell it, I completely lose interest and find it distasteful, I just S.O.B (scroll on by)

    "Who the @&&$ are you?", you might ask. No one.
     
  25. seb fontana
    Joined: Sep 1, 2005
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    seb fontana
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    from ct

    How in the world would you get EVERY piece of crud out of the block once the job was done?![/QUOTE]

    I wondered about that too..Maybe a spray/flush of kerosene and wipe down?
     
  26. 33essex
    Joined: Aug 21, 2015
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    I tend to agree if he's never going to use them. Then let someone that will buy them. I had all my grandfathers tools. Till my dick younger brother took them to Ohio with out asking. Then moved back ,but left the tools there. I do have all of the tools of my older brother that passed away. I use them all the time.
     
  27. afaulk
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    For a small town, there sure are a lot of ass holes. Seriously...........so many whining bitches.
     
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  28. Hnstray
    Joined: Aug 23, 2009
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    Harsh crowd on this one. Those of you who chose to criticize this fellow had no information about what his motive for selling might be. I agree that the tools are better sold to a potential user than sitting unused in a dark corner.

    Ray
     
  29. I think what rubbed everyone the wrong way is the actual post, not that he wants to sell them, at least it did me.

    He grabs the attention with hey, check out these cool old tools, then he goes into the sentiment of how they were his grampas, then talks about how they were willed to him because he is "the only one in the family that knows how to use tools",,,,,,,,,,,,,,, which MANY of us can relate to.

    After the attention getter and bonding, then he basically says, but screw all that, I want to know how much cash I can get for them. If he had just asked what they were worth, I see the thread going the same way all the other threads of " what's it worth" going.
     

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