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Hot Rods Thinking of my next build....Please post pictures of 33/34 coupes with 32 grille

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Sparkswillfly, Oct 10, 2016.

  1. Yes. Jim Griespa's (sp?) coupe. I have that issue of Hot Rod from '56 with it on the cover. Last I read, he still owns the coupe though it is in pieces.
     
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  2. Stogy
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    I think both versions are awesome but the fenders, hood and that funky flame job really cats meow it for me. I just sourced out a rerun on youtube of a show featuring this hotrod and some others...nothing like a little ambience...before getting to the 3 winder...

    So click on the link go to 11:17 and enjoy a little Hotrod appetizer before (around)13:47 the boys hop in the rods and rumble off to bigger and better things. It is interesting seeing him hop in the coupe rapping the door off the roadster while opening it...o_O There is another cool roadster at 16:25 but this is really about that cool coupe. Probably been played to death here but I never saw it before...

     
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    Not only that but probably best organized wall of tools I've ever seen! HRP
     
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  4. I've avoided this thread as long as I can stand it and at the risk of rubbing anyone wrong I have to comment on the subject.

    The 32 shell has been used very successfully on T's & A's for more years than most of us have been alive, ever since the first shell was removed at the junk yard and they generally look like they were made for that car.

    Although the cars in this thread are well built and look good I'm just not too keen on the deuce shell on 33/34 cars,they don't seem to fit the graceful lines of the Model 40's.

    While I have opened the lid on Pandora's box I would like to add that I think the 33/34 drill shell is the prettiest shell Henry ever produced but,they don't look right on T's,A's or Deuces.

    My opinion is simply my thoughts and it is not my intent to discourage anyone wanting to build their hot rod using a deuce grill shell. HRP
     
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  5. falcongeorge
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    Not that the HAMB membership would EVER tell anyone how to build his car. UNLESS of course he had the temerity to consider doing it mid-late fifties style..then all bets are off...:rolleyes:
     
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  6. The '32 shell would never be used on a stock body .... it's the channeled aspect that gets the 33/34 grille tossed. "Et tu" >>> same car --- different paint and proboscis/schnozz. Voila !! .... no more scraping, pole vaulting, grille wad ups.

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  7. falcongeorge
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    and channeling is also pretty much a non-starter under the HAMB neo-traditional rules as well, so....
     
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  8. Ok then ,,,,

    Lowered and Channeled 33-34 bodies look great. Awesome - win
    Wadded up 33-34 grills ? Well they look like shit -that's a Fail
    Grills higher than the cowl? Well that looks like shit - that's a fail
    33-34 grills laid way back look like shit. Fail again
    Sectioned 33-34 grills ? Can't remove enough and destroys the proportions of the grill

    If not a 32 shell, what's the appropriate grill for a lowered and channeled model 40?
    What's the best compromise grill for the awesome stance?
    A 32 shell is not a 33-34 grill, but the 32 is available, fits, and its use is traditional on a build like this. Plus it's cheapest
     
  9. Stogy
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    Man just like a movie star going through changes every scene...so many transitions. Me prefers near stock height grill as in TV show clip. I want one. Thanks for the x-tras...Hey wheres Sparkswillfly...o_O...Any comments with all this inspiirratttion...:rolleyes:
     
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  10. A snapshot from the episode linked above. Thanks for the link @Stogy! image.png
     
  11. "31 vicky with a hemi" pretty much said what I feel about it. However, using a full height deuce grille on a non channeled model 40 is a sin!
     
  12. NashRodMan
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    I'm with Petejoe on this one!!
     
  13. This chopped & channeled coupe was at the JalopyRama last weekend. Photo by Scooter:

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  14. Blues4U
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    31 Vicki with a hemi pretty much summed it up. And as falcongeorge has pointed out numerous times, it is traditional, backed up by vintage photos and the Life of Riley car. But the lines don't flow right IMO, there is a dissonance between the laid back angle of the 33-34 A pillar's and the straight up angle of the duece grill. The dissonance is emphasized on chopped cars where the A pillars are laid back even further.
     
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  15. A '32 3 widow has practically the same lines given the leading edge of the door etc. Not trying to argue but I think it really all just comes down to you either like it or you don't.
     
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  16. .... apologies for doubling Vicky's post, from page before/smart phone HAMB'ing blows. (can't see)

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    ....one coupe, one roadster ...

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    .... hope these aren't re-posts too.
     
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  17. Blues4U
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    That's interesting, I had to go out and search out a couple of pics to compare. These are facing the opposite direction, but I think it works. If the angle of the A pillar's aren't different, and I think they are, but if they aren't, than something else about the configuration of the lines gives that appearance. Maybe it's the angle of the cowl, and/or the slope of the hood, the angle of the louvers, etc. The lines draw your eye differently, the model 40 lines, to my eye, all flow with more of an angle.

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  18. Yep !!!

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    I know what your saying- look at how fucked up that deuce looks!
    Vertical cowl / vertical hood/ vertical grill and lean in the A pillars and door jamb- yuck !!!!
    It looks like a bad photo shop :p[/QUOT]
     
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  19. Double it again for the next page.

    It's easy to tell who's ever had there hands on a 33-34 or at least paid attention while looking at one and easy to see who hasn't. The next tradition is going to be that the model 40 should never be channeled.

     
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  20. falcongeorge
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    I don't even like to see the Griepsma car mentioned on the hamb, I don't like to see a car that I (and many others) have considered an icon since I was a teenager being bashed by a bunch of post-1970 street rod guys pretending they are "traditional" because its the current flavour of the week.
    This shit is why F&J and so many others before him have left.
     
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  21. I hesitated even posting it because it is near and dear to my heart as well! We have to show these guys what's up man!

    I knew I could could on the few that get it to back me up though! ;)
     
  22. Did the OP ever even come back or did he just lob the turd and run, haha?!
     
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  23. Back in the early 70's fellow Tri-City Rod & Custom club member Doug had a channeled gold coupe with moon disc that is the spitting image to this car,if the trunk lid was welded shut I would swear it's the same car. HRP

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  25. falcongeorge
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    I pm'ed him a bunch of photos and got a "thanks for the pics", my guess is, that like everyone else who throws out the idea of building a car in the late fifties style on the HAMB, he has succumbed to the overwhelming peer pressure on here, and is going to build it in the HAMB neo-traditional conformist style, the way the born-again street rodders have told him to...That way, we can all feel save and secure with yet another black, babyshit green or maroon hard-chopped model 40 highboy with '35 ford wires and commercial headlights.
    Its so comforting when everything is safe, predictable, and the same.
     
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  26. falcongeorge
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    Its already DEEPLY entrenched in the HAMB rules that NO traditional hot rod should be channelled.
     
  27. Blues4U
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    Well, when you put it that way........

    Maybe that's why I prefer the Model A ;)
     
  28. MAD 034
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    My dad built this '34 coupe back in 1953 -- he was a big part of the hot rod scene in Portland, OR. It had a heavy channel and ran a chopped deuce shell. I don't think it gets much more traditional than the pics below:



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