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Nice try, but that car was Before the G***er Era (not to mention it wasn't a G***er but an Altered) and no one said they didn't exist, he said they were one of those things that should be left to Early Drag Race History, they sure weren't common on the Racers of the Golden Era, although I'm sure someone is going to post a picture anyway. Nowadays these guys with the corrupted sense of what a G***er is/was think they are mandatory and the fact is they just weren't part of the equation for the majority.

 

You see comments like safaris and cliks on here regularly, they are so patently ridiculous and uninformed that anyone who has ever made so much as one p*** at any dragstrip in the country knows they are from someone who has never been closer to tech than the pit side grandstands.
Do racers "cheat". Hell yes, I may have "accidentally" sprayed an intake manifold down with brake clean once or twice. Do racers say "**** the tech guy, I'm a bad-*** rod-abilly, I don't need no stink in' rules", and do jack-*** **** that could be seen from across the pits? Not if they want to race.

 

Maybe we should define our terms. I've been using "Traditional" as that which I might have seen racing either at the track, outlaw and otherwise, or the street in 1964 or before. Falcon George seems to be using the term "Traditional" as that which was AVERAGE at NHRA sanctioned tracks where techs were sticklers for the rules. Maybe I should use some other term such as "Period Correct" but even that doesn't seem to fit. I think most of us would agree that white wall pie crust cheater slicks were not common but they were out there racing on sanctioned tracks and otherwise just as disc brakes were and coil overs. Maybe not common or average but they were run in the period.

 

These are NOT g***ers!
BB/ALTERED

B/ALTERED

 

I might as well hop on this Turd Pile ! For some of the G***ers, height and stance changed with the p***ing of time. The Bizio truck is a fine example, these photos were separated by about 3 years. I suppose tire compounds were a major factor, the rear suspension in unchanged still today.

 

One of Gary Coe's Gunfighters
D/ALTERED at the Winters
NOT A G***ER!!!!

 

Nice pics Marty.
Yes tires made a huge difference, but so did handling at speed. When cars ran over 150 mph they really got scary.
high is NOT the way to go! In both pics the car is sitting level.

 

LOL If you include "outlaw" you open the door for anything. The cars called g***ers today would, for the most part be laughed at and turned away in the 60's. You just don't want to define traditional as TRADITIONAL!
We don't allow roadsters with new Mustang or Corvette engines here do we?
Why not?
We don't put John Force in the Drag Cars thread do we?
Why not?
We don't do tech on putting power windows in a 34 Sedan do we?
Why not?
Most of you simply DO NOT UNDERSTAND the difference between altereds, g***ers and other race cars.
I've seen this for years. LEARN!

 

I think I pissed myself..

 

Gary, this is a waste of time. I have learned, you can post photos and rule books until the cows come home. Like I said earlier, you don't waste time arguing with the mouth breathing ***** that comes up to you at a cruise night and starts telling you about 383 six pack hemi roadrunners...

 

I know. I have nothin' else to do.
I've heard so much **** at strips over the years it always makes me laugh!
When I went to Famosa every year for the March Meet I heard ridiculous **** from the tattooed greaser guys, but also from guys OUR AGE that apparently have spectated for decades AND STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND DRAG RACING!
'Go figure!
I don't get WHY people INSIST on this though. Read the rules under "gas Cl***es" guys, that settles it!

 

My God! This a "featured thread"??????
Holy...........
It's like the old canard, I can't define ****ography........but I know it when I see it!
I KNOW what a g***er is!

 

I think this car was actually a survivor g***er, and some hamber decided the front fenders weren't "cool" and pulled them off, so it ain't a g***er anymore.
Oh I know, in safaris or cliks world, any real bad-*** g***er guy would punch that stupid tech guy in the face, force his way into the lanes, and run it anyway!

 

This truck ran in FX cl*** and won! So what! Not a typical FX car.
FX is ANOTHER term that modern guys don't understand at all, but that's another pointless thread!
Gee kids, WHY was this truck in FX and NOT a g***er?

 

Very cool BB/Gas car. Do you know what BB means?
Why is this a G***ER????

 

Who knows! I'm not trying to trash cars, this one doesn't CLAIM to be a g***er ( as far as I know), I used it because many guys WOULD think it's a "g***er".

 

If you took my post as being patronizing then I apologize. That was not the intent at all.

 

I won't quote the photo of the Ramchargers' High and Mighty car.
I don't care how famous it was; it has got to be the most "unphotogenic" (is that a word) car to come out of the period. Thank god people don't consider it the gold standard.

 

I mentioned this truck as well as **** Boytons Dodge earlier in the thread, both ran B/FX. Running a truck was one way to make the B/FX weight break with a BB, running a wagon or a full size '65/'66 Galaxy like Jerry Harvey's was another.
One thing that has been missed here, MP didn't come into existence until '63 or '64. The reason is pertinent to this thread, it was the development of the g***ers as jacked up solid axle dedicated race cars, and the fact that the cars that gas cl***es were originally developed for back in the fifties, the modified, street driven cars with engine swaps and multiple carbs, no longer stood a chance in gas cl***, even on a local basis.
That's what's REALLY sad about all this, the REAL history is a lot more involved and interesting than the "HAMB traditional" version. The way I figure it, in another 20 years, no one will give a rats *** about ANY of this, and drag racing and hot rodding will be an aberration that is little more than a footnote in a 20th century sociology cl***. With the way it's being distorted, hi-jacked and ****ed up, I honestly welcome that obscurity, it cant come soon enough.

 

Read and learn! At least look at pictures and learn!
Go to George Kl***'s site, not the different categories of cars, traditional, old school drag cars.
G***ER is a drag racing term, if you use it to mean a 70's or modern jacked up STREET FREAK, you are using the wrong term. Simple as that.
LEARN!
http://www.georgekl***.net/index.html

Again, NOT A G***ER! Figure out WHY?

 

Well, and it comes up on EVERY SINGLE G***ER THREAD, and every time, the idiot who posts it is told that it's an altered, yet a week later, there is it again on the very next g***er thread, as "proof" for the jacked up circus wagon crowd. It really just tells you the intellectual capacity of the people involved in that side of the debate. 383 hemi six pack roadrunner....

 

Note the "Hart Automotive" on the hood, late sixties heavy hitters.

 

To quote Sgt Preston, "King, this case is closed"!
I have stuff to do!

 

Does he know it?

 

I THOUGHT sure I saw this! ???????
I was thinking of Stu Hillborn!
WTF? SORRY GENE!! JEEEZ!!!!

 

Ah yes, the infamous change in 1966 where B/GS, which was easy to understand; B Gas Supercharged became BB/G and everyone hated it. And then in '68 is became BB/GS to try and appease the racers.
I just love it when you see something on a modern build that says D/GS - there was no D or lower Supercharged cl*** but they think the GS somehow stands for "G***er"

 

Or when you see D/G on the side of a car with a big block. Remember that guy on here with the "5500 lb" '55 ford?

 

You asked for it

 

LOL Just read DRO's ramblings.
Apparently THIS is the coolest thing to young drag racers!

It ISN'T traditional 'cause it's old! Why race a piece of **** junker, anyone can put a huge engine in a rusty junker.WHY?
Back when REAL G***ERS ran, they took pride in being cool , beautiful cars! Primer was just 'cause it isn't painted yet. Rust? Not really!
Now some nitwit is going to post a picture of....guess which Willy's?

 

I know what cl*** it was, but the tire didn't put in C/A or take it out of a Gas cl***. The point was that the tires were out there and no doubt someone ran them on a g***er or could have.

Maybe you guys are using the word "traditional"synonymously with "average". I liked the innovation of the period and the TRUE fact that guys pushed the rules as did the track promoters.

One of the problems that the Traditionalist-NHRA-Techy-Strict proponents faces is that a car/truck that was a G***er going by strict NHRA rules one day was not a G***er the next day due to a rule change.

I greatly appreciate trying to keep things within the scope of they way they were and am by no means proposing that a Mustang II with a straight axle be termed a g***er but to say guys in the 60s didn't use the term for a Henry J or a 40s vintage Dodge truck with nose up stances g***ers is just wrong. I was around in that day.