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Technical Bead Roller Do's & Not Don'ts?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by brigrat, Dec 19, 2016.

  1. brigrat
    Joined: Nov 9, 2007
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    So if I read between the lines NOW I need a planisher, stretcher & shrinker just to "enjoy" my roller? Where does it end, when I am tool broke?
     
  2. Da Tinman
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    Nope, planishing can be done with a hammer and dolly, shrinker/stretcher helps with the tipping die, and many other things.

    Shrinker/stretcher is next on your list though.

    BTW no such thing as tool poor, its called "Well Equipped".
     
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  3. brady1929
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    If you want to play, you gotta pay.
     
  4. Thommyknocker
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    Would someone be so kind as to show a picture of the dies, and what their names are?

    Pretty please, it would make an excellent Christmas gift to me, I have no idea what I'm doing
     
  5. brigrat
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    Names and purpose would help!
     
  6. Ebbsspeed
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    If someone highly skilled is making METAL MEDALS, it takes some METTLE to MEDDLE in their manufacturing process.
     
  7. falcongeorge
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    My regular computer is in for repair, and I am really not skilled at posting photos with the iPad I am using, not even off the Internet. Maybe someone else can. A tipping die is pointy, if that makes sense. A stepping die is pretty self explanatory, the dies have an interlocking step. Not sure if my descriptions are really helping. I also have a dedicated set of really old beaders that are for doing wire beaded panel edges, they are really cool. I posted a photo of them on one of Ryan's threads a few months back, but I don't think anyone knew what they were!:D
    As far as what some of the dies do, hell, I am still figuring that out myself!:rolleyes::p
     
  8. RMONTY
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    Chords....
     
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  9. falcongeorge
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    There's actually a thread on here ***led "what is a tipping wheel/die" it has a good photo.
     
  10. Doncha no, peapell prolly just tipe like they tawk. Noamsain?

    My buddy lives out of state so we communicate via text and email a lot. He refuses use "than", ever, or "and" its always an. This is better then that, I'd rather be leaving then then now. it's a decipher show to understand what he's saying.
     
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  11. Lazze has some great YouTube vids on bead rolling. Lots of others too.
     
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  12. falcongeorge
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    Ditto on the Lazze stuff.
     
  13. It will never end - if you keep going it will too.
    Try to make a few nickels with the tools and get some more.

    You can buy the tools, do your own stuff and save some money. But you've really gotten poorer, you still had money go out and Now you've got stuff to store eating up square footage. Do a few projects so they earn their keep
     
  14. k5hart
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    This doesn't really explain what each one can do but is a good view of all the different profiles. Just click through all the links.
    http://www.mittlerbros.com/mittler-bros/bead-rollers/standard-bead-rolls.html
     
  15. metlmunchr
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    Lazze also has a good video on how to do some simple modifications to the hardware that holds the dies on most of the common shrinker stretchers so they work a lot better.
     
  16. metlmunchr
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    I've used a pair of flat rolls, about 3/4" wide, to pre stretch before rolling a bead. The rolls need a slight radius on each edge otherwise the edges will mark the sheet, especially so in turns. Have to experiment a bit to see how many p***es you need to make to get the right amount of stretch as its dependent on how hard the sheet is.
     
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  17. 56shoebox
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    "SHRINKAGE!!!"

    shrinkageseinfeld_300.jpg

    We've all had to deal with that at one time or another.
     
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  18. Hey while we're at it-
    A "do" is self explanatory
    A "not don't" is also a "do" however it does require explaining.
     
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  19. PoRodder
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    Eastwood has a Youtube video on bead rolling also. It is about and hour long and is excellent.
     
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  20. Johnny Gee
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    Doesn't the notes A, B, C, D, E, F and G equal 7 and the other notes are sharps or flats just like sheet metal.
     
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  21. brigrat
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    Just thinking out loud here, can a Bead Roller with the rite dies/rollers be used as an English Wheel on smaller projects?
     
  22. K13
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    In theory yes practically I would say no. It would take forever to do anything approaching what you would want to accomplish with a English Wheel and the limited throat height of a bead roller would severely limit the depth of a piece you could work on.
     
  23. Chech this out.


    He has plenty
     
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  24. brigrat
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    Well as luck would have it 31Vicky I can't get any volume on the video & not at the point of reading lips quite yet. You get the volume?
     
  25. Yes. Works perfectly
    Watched it before I posted
     
  26. brigrat
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    Got it, damn grand kids on my computer again! Thanks for taking the time to look up and post this info!
    Looking at his beadroller I see I can fabricate an adjustable throat stop for mine a well....................
     
  27. Watch all his videos, they are really pretty good. You'll see lots of stuff you want to try. Prolly get envious of all the stuff at his fingertips too.
     
  28. Once you start playing with the bead roller you can figure out what works and what doesn't pretty quick. If you're only doing occasional stuff and not building a Ridler contender you can sometimes get away with making stuff like my tipping dies...

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    Which was good enough to make the rockers for my '41 Ford. A few whacks with a hammer and dolly and they turned out pretty slick.

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