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Technical Bolts needed for engine hoist&stand

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by dtwbcs, Jan 10, 2017.

  1. dtwbcs
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    Am renting an engine hoist. Bought an engine stand from Harbor Freight. Am going to pull my GMC270 6cylinder.
    What size/length bolts do I need to
    1. pull the engine
    2. Mount the engine on the stand.
    Thanks
     
  2. Ebbsspeed
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    I'm replying to this just to see any additional replies. It could be interesting.
     
  3. 302GMC
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    Well, here goes ... first we gotta see your engine stand .... we'll go from there.
     
  4. dtwbcs
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  5. Guess I will be the first, friend has couple of those stands, to me they are pretty shaky, even with a little sbc hanging on it. I would never put an inline engine on one, just my thoughts, tho.

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  6. Johnboy34
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    Can you put an inliner on one sideways like a Flathead?
     
  7. Does it say in the assembly instructions? I just bought the HF 2000 lb stand myself a couple of weeks ago, I wanted the extra legs for more stability.
     
  8. Yikes. The Horror Frought engine stand I've experienced would droop like an 80 y.o. dong under the weight of a small block Chevy. That big Jimmy is just shy of 800# fully dressed so please be careful. Be ready to block up the snout end and don't even consider trying to rotate it over on there.
    I don't know the bolt off the top of my head but I'd pull one from the bell and then add an inch, get matching nuts and sturdy washers


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  9. gatz
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    That stand looks a bit lightweight to support an inline 6-cyl.
    If not already assembled and still within time period for return, why not spend a little more and get their 2,000 # version. It folds up (somewhat) to take up less room. Note the 3rd swivel caster.
    Alot heavier made.

    http://www.harborfreight.com/2000-lb-Capacity-Foldable-Engine-Stand-69521.html

    Don't know what length of bolts; depends on the stand and its mounting arms.
    Whatever size bolts you need; should be Grade 8s
     
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  10. Jethro
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    Although I have put a 250 and a 292 chevy on one of those stands I think I would put some kind of outboard support on the end of the crank on a Jimmy 270/302. That's a lot of torque on a sketchy probably poorly welded stand that is meant for engines quite a bit shorter than an inline six. I'd hate to have one of those fall on my foot / kid / dog / anything precious let alone break a fairly uncommon engine.
     
  11. 302GMC
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    Then there's the unique narrow bolt pattern on the block which can be a hassle without a specially made mount.
     
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  12. jimmy six
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    This stand will work but it is a little lighter than I like. 4 wheels are what is important and a must. The rear engine bolts are are 7/16" course with a 5/8" head and these holes are normally for 3/8" bolts; I had to drill mine out. Be sure to use flat washers. Some of the sliders are hard to make work as the bellhousing bolting is fairly close not like a V8. I have had my GMC 's on this type for 45 yrs. Be careful rolling it around especially with the cylinder head on.
     
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  14. dtwbcs
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    o_O
     
  15. dtwbcs
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    "I could swap it for the 2000 lb stand"
     
  16. squirrel
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    might be a good idea.

    when you get the engine stand, measure how long the 7/16" bolts need to be, to fit through the holes...add 3/4" for thread engagement...
     
  17. As others have said, that 6 is no light weight, nor is it balanced nicely.
    A STOUT, FOUR WHEELED stand is a must, NOT an option.
     
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  18. inliner2318
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    It's big block weight and cantilevered out there.
    I believe the bolts are 7/16"-14 grade 8


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  19. squirrel
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    chevy 235 uses 7/16".....????
     
  20. squirrel
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    digging through old pics to see if I can find the right one.... :)

    gary 235.jpg
     
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  21. Don't think those flimsy HF stands were around 45 years ago.
     
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  22. mgtstumpy
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    I might add, use graded bolts for safety, not ungraded bolts! Make sure you use HD washers as well between so bolt doesn't seat directly on arms.
     
  23. spanners
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    I've used one very similar for the last 10 years or so without any dramas. I use old head bolts with flat washers. I've had complete six cylinder Holden motors on it AND rotated them carefully. I've also had a v8 Holden and a SBC on it. Both times were without the heads. What I don't do is wheel it across uneven surfaces.
    It's like any tool. Abuse it and it'll bite you back.
     
  24. My old Pontiac engines take a 7/16ths bell housing bolt so I use small block chevy head bolts with flat washers...work great.
     
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  25. Hombre
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    dtwbcs, Just a quick way to get notification on this thread.
     
  26. evintho
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    Craigslist is loaded with engine stands. Here's one near you that's a little sturdier than the HF piece..........
    http://austin.craigslist.org/tls/5938646979.html

    As far as bolts, as stated pull a bellhousing bolt. That's the diameter. For the length, measure the length of the boss on the rotating head then add 1-1/2" or so. Grade 8 bolts and grade 8 washers and you're good to go!
     
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  27. dtwbcs
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    Ok, I will return it and get the 2000# model. A review stated he had a 292 on it. I will take a bell housing bolt for size. What size do I need for removing engine? Do I pick a head bolt and get it extra long to go thru chain?
     
  28. dtwbcs
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  29. for chevy sixes, i made a plate that uses the bolt holes for the coil bracket and has a hole to hook a chain to. i either loop the other end of the chain around the intake/exhaust or, if the intake/exhaust are off i bolt the chain to the head using one of the intake/exhaust bolts.
     
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  30. [​IMG]

    I've got a heavy duty 4 wheel stand (not HF) holding my 261. Still worried me with the stability so I used the side motor mounts to run long threaded rod inside square stock down to a cross member. It's just for storage so don't need to rotate it.
     

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