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Please Post Why you help the *APPRECIATIVE* people that ASK for help.

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by henryj1951, Mar 31, 2017.

  1. steinauge
    Joined: Feb 28, 2014
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    Why would you be here if you didnt want to learn\teach??
     
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  2. henryj1951
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    ^ E X A C T L Y
     
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  3. I doubt if anyone remembers when I am gone. But my granddad once told me that it is way better to be remembered for what you have done than for what you haven't done.
     
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  4. Engine man
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    I had a 7th grade science teacher who told us the first day of class: "You will learn a lot more with your eyes and ears than you ever will with your mouth". He told us that doesn't mean you shouldn't ask questions. When someone did ask a question, he would turn it over to the class just to show that people who were listening knew the answer.

    It's important to hand down knowledge and experience and I enjoy trying to help. I never understand those who seem to hate giving advice.
     
  5. cretin
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    I help for multiple reasons. For one, it's the love of the cars, and I want to see them treated well and live on. Another is that there are a lot of guys out there who want the knowledge, but may not have a good way to get it. I identify with that, I had nobody to learn any of this stuff from, I had to find a way to learn it, and find people willing to teach. If it wasn't for other people willing to share their knowledge, there would be a lot of things that I wouldn't know.
    A lot of this stuff would die, if nobody was willing to help, and that's just sad. It's a way of passing it on.

    And besides, if someone really wants to know something, why wouldn't you help? Knowledge is one of the few things you can give away, and still keep.
     
  6. Gman0046
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    Its always nice to be appreciated by those you help. It doesn't take much for someone to say thank you.
     
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  7. Get the hell out of my head! Your entire post is nothing but the truth. ^This part is dead on. I used to negotiate union issues with management. Controlling that "poised to shoot" mentality is hard to do but once accomplished it's open season. The more you listen the better the outcome.
     
  8. henryj1951
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    Like this ---> Thank you for taking the time to post.
     
  9. henryj1951
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    In fact :T H A N K - Y O U , to all who post,
    as well as provide HELP to others.

    I too have LEARNED, from my fellow HAMB'ers.

    And a little bit more, thank you to those who ASK those questions, because without them, we'd have no ANSWERS to give.
     
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  10. Gman0046
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    henry, that works for me.

    Gary
     
  11. henryj1951
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  12. A lot of times people are posting to share something, to try to connect on a personal level, you'll hear the crickets. I'm not the brightest bulb, so I won't be grinding anyone's cams for them, but I do know when someone's just looking for a kind word or some acceptance, so when there's a lack of that I try to chime in with some.

    I have found a lot of members here willing to help me out and share info, and I have really appreciated it.
     
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  13. ^Your sense of humor is also appreciated.
     
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  14. henryj1951
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    Yes CLUNKER, it is QUITE the little BROTHERHOOD we have here.
    Like, a hunting party , small get together, or our own un-affiliated car club.
    And sometimes we agree to dis-agree...
    But over all, it is a CAMARADERIE , all of its own.
     
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  15. saltflats
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    And the wife is gittin tired of hearing it so.....
     
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  16. Gregg Pellicer
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    I always try and help when I can but sometimes it is frustrating. I have a friend I have been helping for a few years now he has very limited mechanical knowledge and that's fine . The rub comes when he asks my advice on something on his car up to and including buying this particular car. Then ignores your advice and when things don't work out comes back to me to fix it.It wears you out tying to fix something you advised against doing to begin with. This is just the other side of trying to help. My advice to you if you don't know what you doing and ask a trusted friend for help LISTEN TO HIM!!!!!!!!!! Sorry if this seemed like a bit of a rant. Having said that I still always try and help when asked. We weren't born knowing what we know about cars we all had help along the way.
    Gregg
     
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  17. cretin
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    We have a young guy at the shop like that. Asks your advice, then ignores it and probably will do the wrong thing and comes to you to fix it. We call him an "askhole"
     
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  18. Petejoe
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    Know quite a few. They keep asking the same question to various people until they get the answer they want to hear.


    ..
     

  19. I've done that myself, but it was to get a general consensus on opinions. More to find out if there's a common thought. Those opinions need to go a filter if you will. Didn't do it to find someone who agrees although there were.

    Sometimes it's a bad idea posed, and your filter will sort out those that agree with said bad idea :)
     
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  20. Petejoe
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    Yes that's true.


    ..
     
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  21. I like to share what I've learned over the years and success teaches us nothing. We learn from our mistakes and mistakes others have made. If I can help someone not to go down the same rabbit hole, all is well.

    There are a lot of people that refuse to help themselves and expect others to do their research for them. Those are on their own. I'll look around extensively before I post a question and use the search option too.
     
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  22. henryj1951
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    Or the ones that ask for help, but your answer just can't be CORRECT because you don't
    have that installed on YOUR CAR...
    Or they think that because you appear to know ONLY things about PAINT that you probably can't know about the quench area or thrust side of an engine...lol
     
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  23. wicarnut
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    Reading this thread confirms what I believe, there's alot of good people in our hobby and life. The times I've had a problem on the road towing or Rodding, someone always stopped and offered to help, back before cell phones, this was big help, if nothing else they would stop down the road, service station or phone booth to call some help for you. I have been very fortunate in life to have smart friends/mentors for some guidance, but as any Old Timer will tell, it takes some sit down/thinking/ time to figure things out for your own deal, car wise or life wise.
     
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  24. henryj1951
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    I still STOP and ask is everything ALRIGHT , with the thumbs up, so they can give me the sign back, or say no, thanks for stopping, or you are the first, the other people just went right on by...
     
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  25. henryj1951
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    Ya let's not rush into anything, we've see that outcome plenty of times....
     
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  26. Its funny how many times I learn something that I either forgot, or thought I knew, or never knew at all.

    A lot of the younger guys are way quicker on the nit picky things about old cars that I never bothered to learn. I pick something up every time I got on the HAMB. I am not quick to throw out a compliment, so I am sure that most of them don't know how much I appreciate the knowledge. ;)
     
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  27. henryj1951
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  28. henryj1951
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    Or untill they GET the answer from their FAVORITE....
    Some won't believe you, or me, unless or until, a certain person answers...
     
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  29. Deuced Up!
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    Because I have BEEN an appreciating person that needed help!
     
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  30. Binger
    Joined: Apr 28, 2008
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    I always am willing to offer help either here or in person. If my thoughts have been already presented I don't comment. I do give that post a like. My Grandpa and Dad always were willing to help out a fellow car person. There is a lady that gramps and dad helped restore her model A coupe. Just the other day I helped the same lady with installing her gas tank after she has some repair done. I like the face that I am a third generation that has helped her with her car. She showed me some pictures of the restoration back in the early 80's and I was excited to see gramps and dad in the photos. Now the club in town has aged a lot there isn't anybody working on any real old cars in the club and I always get calls asking for help. I think of it as keeping the feeling and spirit of the hobby alive. I am only 43 but am glad I can offer help on the real old antiques. Sometimes I have to pass the bullshit test of some people who think some younger person can't possibly know anything about a car built in 1915! But that is ok.
    As far as things go when I have the chance to learn something from my mentors I always listen more than talk. I figure you have 2 ears and one mouth. that means you should listen twice as much as you talk. That is how I have always been. Maybe that's why I picked up so much stuff when I was a kid.
     
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