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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by model A hooligan, Apr 5, 2017.

  1. I think something like this would work if the column nudged over just a bit
     

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  2. Okay guys,I can't figure it out. There's no set screw,no retaining c clips, I tried grabbing that little bit of steel on the end of the sleeve and turning with channel locks,nothing. How does the end come apart?
     

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  3. I wonder how big of a stub that hollow DD shaft is there?

    It might be some of that alien technology I mentioned earlier that's holding it. It could be friction and the bearing just drove/tapped or pressed in. Did you look for prick punched or stake marks?

    Did you figure out how much you were going to cut off? If you did, you could just cut the outer tube and slip it off the end. Remove the bearing from the drop and reinstall it in the column.
     
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  4. Dan Timberlake
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  5. Mr T body
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    How I wound up on my '31. SBF, 28" column, Unisteer.
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  6. There are no marks of any kind. Yes I know how much to cut but didn't want to just start cutting into this without knowing. I know 300$ may not be much to some but it's the difference between finishing or not sometimes.just don't want to ruin this column
     
  7. I here ya loud and clear.
    97% chance there is nothing else in there.
    50/50 chance the hollow stub is too short.

    Neither way is going to be an insurmountable obstacle. Just another easy step to building a hot rod.

    What's the outer bearing case/lip made out of?
     
  8. tb33anda3rd
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    mic the end of the outer tube, taking measurements up the tube. if the bearing is pounded into the tube it may be "swelled". tapping it with a thin screw driver and listening to the sound change may also tell you where the end of the bearing is, then a small "feeler" hole in the tube will confirm.
     
  9. jackalope
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    If it's a press fit and quality bearings you can heat the area slightly and they should come out with relative ease.


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  10. 31vicky-looks like it's all steel

    Tb33- all I could think of is it's pounded in but it doesn't swell. Tube is all uniform

    Jackalope,yeah heats an idea just didn't want to ruin this cheap chrome haha
     
  11. jackalope
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    I have a similar column. If it needs shortening the heat will come out. The thermal expansion created by just a little heat will go a long way. You don't need to ruin the chrome even though you'll be cutting that piece off. [emoji6]


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  12. If it were mine or I were doing it for you just I'd cut it 1/2" from where you want it. Carefully, not any deeper than needed. Then go back and make the good cut.

    Discover the shaft and formulate a plan after you find out what is up with the hollow stub.
     
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  13. Hey 31vicky-I took the bolt and the slide in shaft out of the hollow one,I had some small all thread and put that in the column shaft,it's hollow a long ways up. Way past where I need to cut.

    So like you and others said I'll just cut around the outer shell and cut the end off,either the bearing will come out or worst thing is I could always weld the end back on after I've cut out some. Long story short the shaft looks like it will still work if nothing goes wrong. You guys are right I'm probably overthinking this.

    This has been a goo thread for me as no b.s negative stuff has been posted.thanks for that. When I get some time I'll cut it and post back my results
     
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  14. brigrat
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    If a human put it in a human can take it out!
     
  15. I can't get it to budge!

    I cut a section of the chrome out to look
     

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  16. brigrat
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    Well now you opened a can of worms......................
     
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  17. The end I can't get off. There's the inner hollow shaft,then a shaft over it,that the bearing retained part is on. It seems to be stuck. I've tried heating it,hitting it,unscrewing it
     

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  18. Well I was advised to cut it so I did!
     
  19. Ok, so we know they didn't push the bearing down from the top, impossible right? - that means it went into the chrome from the bottom, right?- that means It's going to come out the same way it went in , right?

    The internal steering shaft didn't go in from the bottom, it goes it from the top down and comes out the bottom, right?
     
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  20. Well I've got it warm and tried beating it either way and it doesn't budge at all. All I can really tell is there's like a nylon ring at the end that the internal shaft goes through. It looks like that's all there is for a bearing. That ring looks like it's part of the bigger bearing retainer
     
  21. Poh
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    Is it "d" tack welded to the bearing under your little chrome ring that you Cut off? However it is it WILL comeback apart, wish I was closer


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  22. Poh
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  23. I don't see any weld. I don't see any type of threads or anything.

    The nylon thing looks like it's a bushing for the inner most shaft. You can kinda see it in the pic. I can't remove it,there's nothing to get ahold of
     
  24. Poh
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  25. What other end? Either side of the big 'bearing part' has nothing. No welds nothing. I just tried again to beat the hell out of it 'down' and it don't move. It's almost like it's threaded on. But I can't get good enough hold of it to see if that's true either
     
  26. Poh
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    The other end of the column, sorry should have explained. It is a Summit brand steering column?
     
  27. Is The bearing cup a separate part?
    Can you see a joint?
    What are you using to turn it?
    Refrain from large hammer blows for the moment.
     
  28. Poh- yes it's a summit column

    31vicky,yeah I mean it looks like a separate part. Just tried channel locks but they are slipping with any real force.
     
  29. I've called 'Johnny law' which I heard is suppose to be helix which this column is supposedly made by and then sent to summit (could be wrong)

    But I can tell you they was more than unhelpful. Worst customer service ever. Was just trying to see since they say they 'build them' how the end is put together but I was told then that they make them but don't.. so anyways no help there
     
  30. Poh
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    Man ,bummer. Again wish I was close by, I'd give ya a hand. Hell, maybe it can go the other way just enough and there is a c-clip in there.. hard to say from here . Just kinda throwing stuff out there.


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