Hey guys so I'm looking to buy some reverse eye posies. I placed an order with posies rod and customs but they're back ordered for a couple weeks. I called Nostalgic Sid and was told that hey gets them dropped shipped from posie and Posie said they are waiting for an order to come in. My question is who makes them if posie or Sid doesn't? What about speedway posies? Are they any good? They seem to have them for cheaper and free shipping but I don't want to buy some China cheap ****. Thanks!
A Posie spring from Speedway is just that, a Posie spring. I ordered a '32 rear spring, it came shipped with just a shipping label stuck on it, no cardboard or packing material. That's understandable, it is big, bulky and heavy. In transit one of the sliders popped out, when I contacted Speedway the tech couldn't locate one but he took my info and had Posie's ship one direct to me. In fact they sent me two, a stand up operation!
Hmm, so I'm getting the same spring from speedway as if I ordered it directly from posie rods and customs for cheaper and free shipping?
That is exactly why I ordered from Speedway. I guess it is their own fault that they get a bad rap for some of the stuff they market, but that is what many guys want, cheap parts. Being informed, especially if it means asking as you did always pays benefits. I added a scan of the envelope Posies sent out and the two sliders, again, that is how a good business is operated.
That's crazy!! So who actually makes the springs because like I said posie said they're waiting for their order to come in from being made.
Think about how springs are made, it is basically blacksmith work. Heavy, hot and nasty. I would think that other than Eaton Spring who makes and sells their own products all hot rod springs come from small shops made to order for guys like Posie. It's all about economics of scale, no matter what the item, is the investment in equipment and the needed floor space worth it, or should a business outsource? Springs sound like a no brainer.
Okay so let me ask you this. Speedway has a couple springs but it doesn't match up with posie. The first one says it's for a 35-40 but the measurements are off. Then there's a second one I found for a 37-41 but has the same SKU as the posie 35-36 but the measurements are wrong as well. I can't seem to find one that has the same measurements. The measurement should be 36 1/2" from eye to eye center. Could it be it's a little shorter because it's reversed? Also it says in the figment guide that it must have split wishbones.
splitting the wishbone changes the length so when I ordered mine I had to buy there shackle to get the angle right to the perch it was a 1/2in. longer every thing bolted right in I am very happy my 41 rides good. but who made it?
Most major cities have a spring shop still that can make what you need or reverse yours if need be if you don't want to wait for the back order.
Also, with a reversed-eye spring, you may need split bones to keep the bones from hitting the bottom of the frame. The description also includes 4-bar setups, so it may have nothing to do with spring-to-bones fitment!
Does it really matter who the manufacturer is? It's Posie's brand and I doubt they want to share their production source. Is the car that close to driving that a week or two is holding up the build?
Well I placed an order over three weeks ago for both front and rear springs and shackles. I received my rear springs and shackles but no front spring. They didn't mention when I placed the order that the front were backordered. I called and asked about it but they said it would be a couple days when they came in (that's no big deal ) but then I received an email saying it would be a couple more weeks so I was just curious about other routes to getting some. I can wait but it's like Christmas with waiting on one part to put everything together. I'm just excited to get it on the road. I just think it would have been nice to be told they were backordered when I placed an order.
Well I can't blame you there-I don't mind back-orders-but I expect suppliers to tell me they aren't in stock of a particular item- Sadly many don't.
Right, it's one thing if they let me know but I show up at home only to find pet of my order and on the statement it said back ordered. Anyways speedway had it in stock for cheaper and free shipping so I'll get in next Tuesday.
If speedway is selling you a Posie its a Posie. They have done some things over the years that are questionable but they don't sell something in a name brand package that is not the name brand. if all you want is a reverse eye spring you can get a man leaf or an entire spring made at any spring shop.
Thanks, I just went ahead and ordered from speedway. The ***le of the listing is just messed but but the sku 2040 is what posie said would for my 35. Speedway has a 5802040 but the ***le says 37-41. They need to fix that they said.
If it's made off shore, you're damned right it matters. I hear Posies makes their products in the USA which is great but for a manufacturer to NOT disclose that is not okay in my book.
It's a practice good manufacturers do to protect their dealers stocking the parts they make. If the manufacturer sells their products for less than the dealers stocking and selling their parts, why would a dealer want to invest in inventory?
We are fortunate to have a really good spring shop here in town. I've had them make my main leaf but with reverse eye for my A's. They could have made the whole spring pack if I had needed. The only spring they couldn't do was the rear from my '32 as it has that curve in it. But they were able to reverse eye that main leaf.
They got a new guy in charge of marketing and research. A young guy that is pretty sharp and really trying to improve things. We know him, I'll make sure he gets the information, and I appreciate you p***ing it along. Let us know about the spring when you use it. If no one else cares I would like to know about it.
So I received the speedway posie today and they look good, once I install everything I'll post some photos and let you all know how it rides. Question, I heard that people remove a couple springs from the pack to lower the car even more. They mentioned to remove spring #2 and #4 but #4 has a bracket attached to it that goes around the spring. What is this bracket for and do I need it? I'm running a 4" dropped axle and longer shackles so do I even need to remove a couple springs?
I am a little ignorant some times-so pardon my seemingly simple question- I would think the main leaf(bottom) would be #1 Are the springs counted from the top or bottom?
That could be true. I guess I was told the wrong info but either way they said second and the forth spring from the top to remove.
Install that spring pack as is first. It's probably not too stiff. See if it rides nice before you go removing any leaves. Removing leaves should be done for ride quality, not to lower the car. If the car needs lowering you should flatten the leaves.
Can't say exactly how much a "stock" main leaf with reversed eyes will INCREASE in length but I do recall reading about it in on of the Rod mags. The longer length of course changes ride quality so if you do have a local shop reverse the eyes make sure you have the before & after dimensions. Just a FYI, too many spring rework threads with incorrect shackle angles in here, some are real nighmares...
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