Hot Rods T Bucket Interiors

My thoughts also.
That steering column and the swoopy looking column support doesn’t look good to me.

Riding along with a big metal blade between my legs is strangely unappealing

That really is a bucket of ugly and would fit in well on the thread of the same name

 

That column support made me cringe when I saw it! It is ugly too IMHO.

 

That long steering column reminds me that, while my body is extended 8", I'll need my seating to give good back support as well as a good angle for my arms. In other words, having my arms fully extended is NOT the way to go. A slight bend at the elbows is needed to provide good leverage for steering.

In those pics posted, it appears the long column was used to bring the steering wheel closer to the body. What should have been done, would have been to move the seats forward a little. Also, sitting completely on the floor and your legs fully extended, is not a good position for your legs while driving. A slight bend at the knees is needed for comfort. At least that's what I'll attempt. In this pic of me sitting in a stretched body, my back touches the back wall of the body. In reality, I'll probably need to be sitting a few inches forward. I'll either move the back seat panel forward more or make a thicker back seat panel.



Moving forward a bit, will give me the bend in my knees and arms, and a good, comfortable position for steering leverage. My arms and knees will be bent a bit more than in the pic below.



Other than that, that car has a nice looking interior. Just not practical. And that column support would make wearing a "jock cup" mandatory! OUCH!

 

Or you could install some nice seats like these. Open your mind Fred. The seats can set your car off from all the rest. "Or Not". Think outside the bucket.
Happy Halloween.

 

REB, you keep going back to those hard 'glass seats!
How about something like this so he can adjust as needed?
https://www.amazon.com/Comfort-Research-6-Foot-Suede-Black/dp/B0055DXLAI


Happy Halloween!

 

Freaking HILARIOUS!

 

Rebel, by now, you've got to be kidding. I hope.

 

This is interesting.

http://www.sewntight.com/23t-bucket

 

I like that, not too fancy but nice looking! Wonder about their pricing though?

 

dunno know; think moving your seating position forward would negate some of the body stretch. Maybe I'm looking at this differently; but if the body is extended for more leg room; the steering column is going to have be longer and at a lower angle, to get the wheel in the right place. I know a couple of inches are taken up in the longer cowl; but there is still five inches in the passenger compartment. How does CCR deal with the column position, drop, or support? murpa's column support is a pretty noticeable departure from the norm; but sure did raise some comments.

 

They use a small column support under the dash and I'm sure the column is longer than usual, but not much. The column goes through the lower part of the firewall and is supported there with a tube bracket that supports the lower section of the column. One thing in my favor are my long arms. Their website gives the impression that the column for the stretched body is 28" long. The regular column is 25".

 

Yes Fred that post was "tongue in cheek" Partly. You know I would never try to tell you how to build your car. LOL But I just hate to see you install a standard T Bucket interior. Partly because it is uncomfortable and unmoving and also it isn't what you are building. What you are building isn't a Kookie Kar Kopy like mine. It isn't a Fad T as so many wide tire tall engine freaks are. It is a long low sports car looking build. You need to think sports car seats. So many are just sitting at your local junk yard and yes with adjustable mountings. You won't have to worry about the bend in your arms just adjust it in. Just think outside the box. Okay that is all I have to contribute tonight.

Rebel

 

Sure; I was looking at CCR's web sight a little closer and noticed they had a different drag link,steering box mount, column drop, and column length for the longer body;
but didn't come across the pictures you posted. Inches still don't add up for me; but
CCR has been doing this for decades, so it should be set-up for comfortable driving. Might be interesting to see a couple of direct side shots of both body styles to compare column angle and wheel placement.

 

Some of the pics I have were sent to me from a tech at CCR. I'm surprised he hasn't gotten tired of all my questions and requests for measurements. Yes all the items you mentioned are changed for the longer body and as you stated, CCR's been doing this for a while, so I tend to trust their engineering. I did that when using their parts, I just need to go with it.

Check out this seat base they're getting ready to come out with. It would have to be trimmed for a door (makes me almost wish I'd not gotten a door), but it's an option.





This is what he says about it:

"This is the Seat Base Riser we are going to be using in our new CCR interior. The base allows for under seat storage and to allow strapping to be used on the actual seat board to get more cushion. The steel structure for the door jam support that will attach to it is not quite done but getting close. This will replace the tube support we install in all our door bodies for those that want to go this route. (or with minor trimming, it will fit over it)"

Rich, here's another angle showing the steering column length and angle.

 

Okay, I'm glad we got that "tongue in cheek", out of the way. Rebel, you are correct on your observations of the style of build I'm doing. Somewhere I mentioned that it wasn't going to be the typical T Bucket and that's true. Some where in the last 2 weeks, I'd forgotten that. While I earlier declared my wanting to do my own interior, that will have to change a little. And the issue is the back panel for the bench seat. Here's what I found.

The rear angle in the body interior is 45*. It follows the same angle as the frame kick up. From the bottom of that angle to the back of the body is about 7-8". If the seat back panel followed that angle, I'd be leaning too far back, when sitting. My thoughts are, I'd either have to have a 5 or 6" thick foam back panel attached to the body or just have a 5 or 6" of space for storage behind a separate seat panel. I'm leaning towards having the storage space because a thick back panel would have that dreaded "Fad T" look and that will NOT happen.

Now, a bench seat is typical T Bucket fare and it's a design that has long been used because it works and it works very well. But as you and I agree, this isn't a typical T Bucket build. Combining 2 different styles goes against everything I learned in art school. So, for a DIY bench to work, it would have to look like it belonged and what I had in mind is beyond my skill level. And ALL of this is waiting for the body, which is about 2 weeks away. So, it's theories and subject to change. If ANYONE has a solution for a suitable back panel for a bench seat and it's location.... PLEASE chime in. I'm honestly at my wits end.

So, I'm back to 2 separate seats. Probably these.





They're roadster seats and I've always liked the way they look. They're a clean, functional design. They fit my budget and my ass. I may use 2" channel to get them off the floor a little or not. They're 5.25" at the front bolster. Will they fit behind that front cross bar? I'm not sure. They're 18" front to back and my math says they should. If need be, they could still be removable. I won't have storage under the seats, but I'll have that space behind them for my fuse panel and a little storage. Importantly, I won't lose any leg room and I'm still going to do my own interior panels.


Have a look at this pic. These are NOT the seats I'm considering. They are high end leather and priced accordingly.$$$

 

1990's Honda Aerodeck rear seat will fit in a 27T. Adjustable for reach, rake and height. Came in black pleated leather too. Similar seats in other Hondas

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Thanks. I'll do a Google search.

 

Extra large go-kart seats are good if you want buckets

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I have used Cessna seats too... Very light and well made. Fronts are separate and rear is a bench. Must be easier to get over there than they are here

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These are made from cut up DC3 seats.



I had these brackets made



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Cessna seats



Seats made for my O/T trike



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One more - view of the supports made using airframe clevises and aluminium tubing



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Fred,

I know it isn't my build Fred (or do I) but I think you gave me a vision of it when you started. Think "Old Yeller". American sports/race car. Those simple black bucket seats above would be perfect in my opinion. All the others mentioned below by others and many more at the junk yard would work too. I would like to see you have some front and back adjustment. Just take your time and again "Think outside the box/bucket".
The "Black Dahlia" is going to be a long low sleek '60s race looking rod with a lot of black, a lot of black. It needs to have an interior to match. Not the average "FAD T" look.
A thought, google suspected Black Dahlia killer. His home was really "outside the box". Nothing to do with your build but interesting.

Larry Blue One,

I stand behind my comment that your build is more than the average "garage build" and the Bomber looking seats are perfect for your build but would look wrong if Fred's.

Gary Rebel,

 

Would have been nice if you could have made it to SEMA.
I bet you could of found a bunch of seats to try out.

 

removable steering wheel and your in. It's really not bad.

 

Aha! Didn't catch that.

 

That doesn't do much for the silly looking blade of death perched between your legs

 

I always wondered why the Nutcracker had a sword. It's all becoming clear, now.

 

Truth be told, if I thought they'd fit and I could afford them, this thread wouldn't even exist. As far as Bomber seats go, these are as good as I could afford.
https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Speedway-Aluminum-Hot-Rod-Bomber-Seat,4043.html



They're on sale, now. They have a 20* lay back and only weigh 6.08 lbs, which I love. I could mount them on a wood base, secured by the top of that cross bar and call it done. But the seat cushion Speedway offers seems to have mixed reviews and I like to drive my cars a LOT. So, the comfort level is questionable (hmm... maybe thicker foam?). The width inside is only 16". That's enough for me, but would seriously limit my passengers size. Although, I was usually the only occupant in my old T Bucket. Hmm..... Of course, college girls could......and then I'd..... never mind.

Damn...... now I may have to re-evaluate them!

Rebel..... that Speedway stuff was, "tongue in cheek".

 

Fred Fred Fred. All this shit I am afraid has confused you. Don't let all the shit posted above twist your shorts. I said bomber seats would be WRONG for your build and I stand by it.

I love those black well padded bucket seats you posted above. They will be perfect for the Black whatever.

Rebel

 

Rebel, Rebel, Rebel. READ the LAST sentence in my post. Dude, you seriously need to relax.

The tongue-in-cheek figure of speech is used to imply that a statement or other production is humorously or otherwise not seriously intended, and it should not be taken at face value.