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Projects 1931 Roadster AV8 Project

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by mit311, Nov 29, 2017.

  1. mit311
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    Started this about a year ago so this is going to be more of a recap than a day by day build. Original 1931 chassis with a new Brookville roadster body, 1937 21 stud flathead, 1935 ford transmission.

    Trying to keep it as "pre-war" as possible, and change as little as possible to make the AV8 swap. Started with a disassembled chassis and had to remove "patina:"

    Brakes rebuilt
    Restored rolling chassis with Kelsey Hayes wheels and new reversed eye Posie front and rear springs
    Got the Snyder transmission adapter kit, allowing stock mounting of Model A pedals, e-brake, and unsplit wishbone to my stock 35 trans:
    Using rebuilt, tight Gemmer box. Instead of shortening the sector housing I opted to make "the box" to move steering outboard up to 1" to clear the engine head/header.
    1937 Flathead sourced and rebuilt by Flathead City in Oregon. Pistons 0.30 over, stock iron heads (7.5 :1 compression), Thickstun manifold (post-war, I know, I know), two 9 super 7's, and an Isky 77b 3/4 cam. Headers are from Reds. Boxed the forward frame area where the mounts go; bolted engine up to the stock closed drive shaft (stock rear end) and welded the front motor mounts where they landed.
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    No K member for the trans, simply added two heavy pieces of bar bolted to the stock cross member (you can make them out in the pic below) Electrical will be 12v, ignition is also a new electric 3 bolt from speedway.
    Motor/fan clearance was perfect, stock fan clearing the radiator installed in the stock location. Radiator is from Walker.
    Hard to see above, but I am running brand new stock Houdaille type shocks from Stipe Machine

    Running:


    Body was ordered from Brookville and shipped for free to the L.A. Roadster show:

    SPI epoxy primer sanded, some dents removed, some filler added:

    First try at paint did not go well, sanded down and re-prepped:

    Painted last weekend!
    Color is Brewster Green from TCP Global. Totally different color in the sunlight:

    Putting the body on this weekend, so things should go pretty quickly from here.
     
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  3. steinauge
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    Nice car! Should be a great driver.Hope the body install goes well. BTW I had an old friend who was in the Colt collectors association,he told me "if you are selling its patina,if you are buying its rust" ;)
     
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  4. mit311
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    I'm expecting to have to do some fitting in regards to the steering column / fuel pump in relation to the firewall.
     
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  6. So very nice.......
    Keep this pics coming.
     
  7. Stogy
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    Beautiful period Hotrod build from this vantage...great focused cruise to the finish line @mit311
     
  8. mit311
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    Thanks! What I enjoyed the most, was the fine people I met via craigslist to get the trans, gas tank, and Kelsey Hayes wheels... and at good prices. There are some good deals out there!
     
  9. Stogy
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    And now your meeting us Nice Guys...:D...or should I say we're meeting you...Great knowledge base and comradery around here and some parts even...and the Dry Lakes await you...;)
     
  10. lodaddyo
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    I like that color! I ordered the paint for my roadster from tcp. Look great!
     
  11. I like where youre taking it. My only real concern is what you did for the trans mount, the flat stock will likely bend trying to control the torque from when you accelerate or decelerate, the rear end will be trying to rotate during these times and lifting/pushing down on the back of the trans. The drive line could start seesawing on ya and eventually fatigue the flat stock and/or crossmember (it's not terribly strong to begin with.)
     
  12. waxhead
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    Love the colour. Off to a great start
     
  13. mit311
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    We thought of that, are assuming that 1/4" bar bolted to the front and rear of the cross member would be sufficient. But we will keep an eye on it.

     
  14. mit311
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    Body is on and gas tank is in! had to do some trimming to the firewall for the steering column.
    Firewall was also barely touching rear of the motor... easy fix.
    My only lagging issue is the firewall is way too close to the fuel pump stand. Like, 1/2" or more. Instead of cutting the firewall I may trim the stand (not the breather filter... the stand itself).
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    You need the swan neck oil filler neck to avoid cutting the firewall It does require running an electric pump but they had those in the '40s so it is actually traditional. I did mine that way 12 years ago because I hated to cut a cherry original firewall.
     
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  16. mit311
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    We are actually thinking about cutting the back half off the fuel pump stand and welding on a flat piece of aluminum. That would clear the firewall, and also allow clearance for the mech fuel pump rod. Should still be enough room to "breath," but would make adding oil more time consuming. Ignore the breather cap in the pic, I wont be cutting that in half, I was just too lazy to crop it out of the photo.

    1942-1948-Ford-Mercury-Flathead-V8-OE.jpg

    The other option is as you said, with an electric pump. I just really don't have a place to put it, since I am running a stock cowl gas tank, as opposed to say, one in the trunk or under the rear frame.
     
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    Got to love the SPI primer its the best primer I came across have used some top brands before but SPI is very forgiving
     
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  19. Stogy
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    Stunning just stunning...;)
     
  20. Never2low
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    PERFECTION!!!!!
    Well, maybe 99.9%.
    That drivers side frame horn needs a fog light, but that's just my random opinion.
     
  21. Retroline
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    Nice work, brewster green was a good choice!
     
  22. waxhead
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  23. redoxide
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    Have you any info on the Snyders parts to complete the V8 conversion, viz pedal bracket and wishbone mount, Just had a search through there web site and cant find the bits..

    Very Very neat build .. well done.
     
  24. Kenny P
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    drool.......
    That is gorgeous!!
     
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  26. mit311
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    I do have plans for that frame horn, but not a light. Going to rig up a front bar using a cut down brake cross shaft


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  27. mit311
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    It is listed as “Model A transmission adapter kit pn: A-7001.” If you are putting a v8 and matching trans in a model a you only need items A-D. Item e is for putting a late model trans on a model a 4 cyl.


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  28. lodaddyo
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    wow! that color looks great. very nice build
     
  29. qzjrd5
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    Love the color. You've done a beautiful job!
     
  30. mit311
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    Air cleaners... I don't actually want to run any. The current crappy ones are just keeping dust and construction matter out at present. I was originally just going to run open with bug screens, but my Pop is incredibly paranoid that without running a hood its an open invitation for something to get poured into the carbs.

    I was scouring this site for 30's air filters (and found nothing), but was reminded of the Winfield carb setups with the elbow. This would be perfect for what I want! It is the simplicity of the frogs mouth / velocity stack without the flash. Any thoughts on this? I'll probably bend up a pair using muffler tubing to test but it isn't outside the realm of possibility to have a set cast.
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    Thoughts?
     
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