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Hot Rods Dzus Fasteners

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by HOTRODPRIMER, Mar 2, 2018.

  1. LM14
    Joined: Dec 18, 2009
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    LM14
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    from Iowa

    Problem with most Dzus style fasteners these days is cheap springs. The fasteners are still fine, just buy the best springs you can fine. They collapse almost instantly. We used a lot of them on dirt late models and mods. Would occasionally have to move the spring away from the hole with a sharp wrap of a hammer on a 1/4" extension to get them tight again in the pits.

    DoNOT use Speedway springs, get original Dzus springs.

    SPark
     
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  2. They've held this hood on for 22 years, and are still holding the hood on my old RPU 60 year later.

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  3. Danny, I'm sure you're aware of this but there are many variations. Small and large shank, different lengths, different springs all that accommidate different material thicknesses. I use flat heads most often. I made a simple tool to dimple the panels that uses a fastener to pull the 2 haves together. They may not be for everyone but if properly installed are very useful. :)
     
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  4. Danny : Check the Dzus's I used on my hood..
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  5. DDDenny
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    from oregon

    Notice from their website.
    http://www.fullborerace.com
     
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  6. Stogy
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    @HOTRODPRIMER they are a fantastic fastener...huge in aviation and its not surprising they were used in race as well with the combined fields of use spreading over to the hobby we hold close to the heart.

    A recent thread in memory of the late Roy Fjastad had a related angle on this type of fastener...

    Quoted from @HEMI32's post

    "Later, he reinvented the humble Dzus fastener, the ubiquitous quick-release device that holds body panels in place. Roy replaced the slot with a more secure Allen wrench receptor." Quite an accomplishment in a highly evolved seasoned rock solid established attachment as the Dzus.

    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/rip-roy-fjastad.1098641/#post-12459123
     
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  7. fatkoop
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  8. Marty Strode
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    I have been using them on race cars and hotrods for over 40 years. It was always a struggle to punch and dimple the 3 holes to install the wires in panels, or making specialized plates for mounting. About 10 years ago, I acquired a Pexto kick punch with the die punching and dimpling all 3 holes with one hit. Now it's a breeze. IMG_7836.JPG IMG_7837.JPG IMG_7842.JPG IMG_7862.JPG
     
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  9. DDDenny
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  10. There is no "clip" on the back side. The spring plate is attached to the cowl and the radiator shell.
     
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  11. Frank Carey
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    Nice pic of Bugatti self-balancing mechanical brakes.
     
  12. 3W JOHN
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    Could you show a pic with the hood open?
     
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  13. 5window
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    This is a very interesting thread. I have to say I am in love with this kind of old patent application drawing. No computer generated crap, even if in 3-D, is ever going to match the artistry of these drawings.
     
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  14. WZ JUNK
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    from Neosho, MO

    I made this tool for the race car. We had many places that had mismatched panels and the springs for retaining the fasteners needed adjustment. You place the end of the tool through the hole and twist it to attach to the spring. Then you can pull out or push in to bend the spring for the right amount of tension on the fastener.

    John dzus tool.jpg
     
  15. WZ JUNK
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    WZ JUNK
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    from Neosho, MO

  16. mikhett
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    from jackson nj

    We use them at work.They hold on covers on mail processing equipment panels.
     
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  17. DDDenny
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    The current mfg's of Dzus fasteners are more commercially based. The bulk of their product line looks nothing like what we are familiar with.

    https://www.southco.com/en-us/product/hierarchy.html?hid=7345
     
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  18. jimmy six
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    Both these race cars are held together with Dzus fasteners. One HAMB friendly and one not. The dirt Super Stock at Perris Auto Speedway can have the entire front end and sides off in less than 2 minutes; and the Bonneville/Dry Lakes roadster in about 5 minutes..It's amazing how much that helps. On the Dirt car you can see the large head aluminum fasteners on the front fenders to the body side panel... There are a lot of companies making ez parts for racers and street/hot rod cars...you just need to look. B'Ville 2010 026.jpg B73FE546-AB41-42F5-8352-FD4704EA0525.jpeg
     
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  19. 32 Spitfire
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    Morgan uses them on the bonnet of the 3 Wheeler and sometimes I find it a challenge to get all four lined up correctly. They do provide a clean look and once fastened it stays put!

    IMG_6637.JPG

    My blog: https://ontheroadtonowhereville.wordpress.com/

    High Noon
     
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  20. indyjps
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    Spent a year looking at those kinds of drawings while I modeled them in 3-D and generated very sanitary generic prints. Progress??? Nah.
     
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  21. stanlow69
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    They were used by GM to hold the fiberglass boot on the 77 Cadillac convertibles.
     
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  22. banjeaux bob
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    from alaska

    Living near an air force base AND an army base ...one finds all sorts of useful "stuff" surplus that originates from those places.Usually pretty cheap. I went to a garage sale where I bought boxes of cad plated nuts and bolts along with Dzus fasteners.
     
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  23. fatkoop
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    Of course. I musta been asleep at the wheel.

    Sent from my SM-J320V using Tapatalk
     
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  24. Sadly, I have experienced that too. :(;)
     
  25. alanp561
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    I got a lot of cool tools out of different aircraft plant tool cribs. Still got some of the brass needed to trade for the tools. Amazing how well they work in our hobby, huh?
     
  26. I pass their OG factory almost every day. Which is now a Super Fund site. They had it cleaned up maybe 15 years ago, removed all the test wells, etc. Then nasty things were found in the ground water.. again. Very much a hot topic in my home town, also where I live now. I am upstream of the contaminants.
    http://www.dec.ny.gov/data/der/factsheet/152033ou3cuprop.pdf
     
  27. patterg2003
    Joined: Sep 21, 2014
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    patterg2003

    We used Skybolt quarter turn fasteners on an airplane cowl. They are nice & do not have the spring like the Dzus fasteners. The Skybolts are adjustable for thicknesses. We did a mock up to set all the depths before they were installed. Skybolts are a nice looking fastener.
     
  28. stpaulsdealmaker
    Joined: Sep 29, 2009
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    I think the Dzus look really clean on a Streetrod but would like to see a pic of patterg2003 skybolt, by the way like your new (old) 32
     
  29. Malcolm
    Joined: Feb 9, 2006
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    from Nebraska

    I have the spring loaded style holding on the hood sides on my roadster. Speedway sells them and I just used small machine screws to hold them on the hood sides, instead of riveting them on.
     
  30. Russco
    Joined: Nov 27, 2005
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    Russco
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    from Central IL

    We switched to a variation called Mote fasteners comparable in weight but made out of Chromoly and can use a flat screwdriver or torx and won’t slip or strip the heads.
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