Looks good to me. It has the stars front & back, model 18- and the six and nine are correct. congratulations.
That style of numbers were introduced by Ford in February 1931. The 1,6 and 9 were unique to Ford. Looks legit, however, there is a company that sells the stamps.
Just checked mine it has a star B and seven digits and an ending star a four cylinder frame. I've never seen the odd 6-9-1 in 50+ years in the hobby. The frame in the OP post looks new or at least the drilled holes do.Bob
Looks legit, but when you look at the drill holes they look sharp, not like you would expect a 86 year old frame to look like. the metal looks too fresh !
That metal and it's holes look way too new. Have you bought it yet? Sent from my SM-G955U using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
The dash after the 18 is not correct. The real dash has small arrow heads at each end. Also, the serial number is quite low and probably before the newer font was actually used. I would expect the old font for this serial number.
The numbers and dash look good to me. I've never seen an original Ford number with arrowheads on the dash. And that 16,000 number V8 was probably made in the spring of 32, so it's not really that early of a car. Jeff, post a picture of the whole top area of that frame rail near the number. Especially the dimple on the corner of the rail where the cowl bolts down. Then we can tell you if it's a real 32 or not.
My 34 number has 6 digits [understandable] after the dash which has arrowheads at both ends. Font is same as mine.
But, the stars look small, anyone can research what a VIN should be and stamp similar numbers onto a frame Not that I know anything about thinks like that,,,,,,,
It should be stamped in 2 other places. One under the door area and again on the rear axle kickup.. No stars or 18 on these.
I would say it's legit but I would like to see more pics of the rest of the frame to be 100% I have seen a bunch in my day so I usually can spot an original. Some 32 vin #s used a 1 turned side ways for the dash. The worker would stamp the 1 for the 18 then turn the 1 and use it for the dash instead of picking up the double headed arrow. He would then stamp the 8 then the rest of the number. MOST... BUT NOT all of the vin #s had stars before and after. Many did not use the stars at all further down the frame. Also, the holes were punched not drilled so these two look OK
Whoever stamped it used the wrong stamps. The 6 and 9 are not the same as shown in Pelt's and resemble the later stamps produced after 1940.
It has been hashed out on here before. The Early V8 Club books is the definitive authority, states the new stamps came out in late 1931 and were supposed to be put in to immediate use. There were 29 assembly plants in the US and there was mixed compliance with Ford dictate. Thus there are '32's with both style of stamps. Pelt is usually good, but not in this case.
..what is suppose to happen when a person has a rotted/unsafe 32 frame with the proper numbers and a matching title? can the numbers be transfer from the old frame to a new frame and still be with in the laws?
If California is still like they used to be they would use the old frame/title to verify that the project was yours and then add a tag with their number to the new frame (which I assume is new and doesn't have a number) and also the door jam. They would also update the title to the new number. They would probably treat it as a frame change. Ask your state's DMV. Charlie Stephens
"..what is suppose to happen when a person has a rotted/unsafe 32 frame with the proper numbers and a matching title? can the numbers be transfer from the old frame to a new frame and still be with in the laws?" A person could research which states allow this, then if necessary, transfer the car to that state before replacing the frame. Then bring it back. On second reading, I see the question is about a frame alone. I would think that would be much more dubious than changing the frame under a complete car.
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