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Technical 1954 NewYorker- SBC swap

Discussion in 'Traditional Customs' started by NY Delux, May 19, 2015.

  1. George
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    Well, that does cover it. Use "search" a number of Threads on early 50 Chr builds, & putting belly****ons in cars.
     
  2. Well, I'm a Chevy guy, BUT IF I WAS A MOPAR GUY, and saw a Chevy under the hood of a MoPar, it would make my azz pucker !
     
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  3. tb33anda3rd
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    put the chevy in, save the hemi till you can get around to a rebuild, then swop it back.....change.....thats hot rodding.
     
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  4. gearheadbill
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    This is a sbc.. Cam Grant built. Ardun fakeout ...but you get the point.
     

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  5. bobss396
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    I have a SBC in my '59 Ford since I already had it and everything else to go with it. It was a fairly easy swap and the OG mounts are not butchered up. I get a lot of satisfaction about ******* people off and it goes like a scalded dog, win win for me.
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  6. Wow - all you guys picking on a man for doing what he wants to do :( Why don't you powers to be donate the money to fix his Hemi? Then he can have the same amount of fun as he would with his s.b.c., but more worry about breaking old parts ;) Why not start a 'go-fund' for him?? - Hell, start a 'go-fund' for me so I can finish my junk! :rolleyes: do what you like - Like what you do!
     
  7. gimpyshotrods
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    More Hemi's for me!
     
  8. bobss396
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    Real car guys don't pick on another man's ride, plain and simple. I find it a great way to separate the real car guys from the posers, believe me, there are loads of posers in the hobby.
     
  9. blowby
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    You might have to change it to a Chrysler New Jersey but I got no problem with it.
     
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  10. George
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    Some of us are just sick of SBCs in everything. My avatar has a 331 in it that I dropped in.
     
  11. I'm for All different types of powerplants: my '56 Anglia had a 394 Olds & a hydro and I wish I coulda returned the car to the point it was back in the day, before I had to sell it. :( I'd love to have a Hemi or an Olds or a Caddy or a Nailhead, :D etc. I don't think any of these engines will fit as easy, as a s.b.c., in my '41 Chevy sedan. I now live on a s.b.c. budget that dictates my power plant choice. Yes a small block is even cheaper than a 6, which I'd really like to run. Example: $50-75 for a s.b.c. intake as opposed to $300-400 for a 'good' 6 intake. I'm still agreeable if y'all wanna set up a 'go-fund'account for me. :cool: Do what you like - like what you do;)
     
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  12. bobss396
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    A 394 Olds in an Anglia is pretty traditional to me. I went with the SBC in my Ford as I had trouble coming up with a 429/460 or a 351C that was complete. I looked at a Boss 351 that was missing major pieces and was outside in the elements for a long time. The SBC is lighter than the 6-banger the car went with since I used a lot of aluminum parts. And I got a lot of parts up off the floor and back in use.
     
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  13. Gman0046
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    I went through the same thing as NY Delux is getting when I put an SBC in my 86 Pro Street Yugo.

    Gary
     
  14. Racer29
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    In all reality what does it really matter what someone else thinks about your car, it's your car. No I'm not a small block Chevy fan either but build it and drive it.

    Sent from my A520L using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
     
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  15. falcongeorge
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    from BC

    You put a +030 327 in it?? SWEET!
     
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  16. Gahrajmahal
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    Since he posted in the traditional customs forum here he should never have the hood up anyway. It will all be about the custom mods to the body and custom paint work. I just hope he does not modernize the interior, like swap in a complete late model whatever interior dash etc. that we would see.
     
  17. 2tall2
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    Resurrecting an old thread as my first post here. Have known about the site, but never joined until now. I was looking for info on engine swaps into old Chryslers, as I may have a chance to buy a 1954 Chrysler Windsor Deluxe. It was my grandfather's car, and haven't seen it in person in 35 years or longer. Have seen a couple pictures though, and it is on the road. Anyway, curious about upgrading the flathead six to something more powerful and efficient. Would like to be able to drive the car anywhere. It'll never be a show car, just cruise nights and maybe some day trips. I would consider something modern for power, but would only go with mopar power. Along with that, I'd want to do a brake upgrade as well, but keep the rest of the car original looking.
     
  18. gsnort
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    One ride I own is a '35 Plymouth coupe, powered by a Ford 5.0, hooked up to a C4 ****** with a Buick rear end. Why? Because I already owned two pieces. A friend gave me the rear end. I'm 79 years old and don't care if an engine and car don't come from the same manufacturer because that's the way it's been in car modifications ever since I was a kid who rode his bicycle to the Standard station on the corner of Eighth and Baker Streets and listened to greasy hot rodders brag about their rides and the engines they bought for them from a local salvage yard, hooked them up to a block and tackle, hanging from a sturdy tree branch and had at it. Vrooom, vroom.
     
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  19. George
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    There's lots of Threads on updating the 46-54 (basically the same under the sheetmetal) Mopars. Disc kits, upper shock mount relocation. dropping in a 318 or 360 is fairly easy using a rear sump pick up or Van engine.
     
  20. chargin03
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    Your car your choice.
     
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  21. coilover
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    As stated---it's YOUR car. All the tears over an engine swap makes me think I'm over on the AACA site. If you want and engine with cheap parts and universal availability, go for it and don't give a rats *** if the ten cars on each side of it has the exact same drive train. I always believed the H.A.M.B was the area for original thought and experimentation. Before the tears dry here is an ultra rare 442 W30 that had the 455 sent to a motor home where it belonged and a Vette LS installed. Owner WAY happier with no carb, more horses, and over 20mpg. I always tell a potential customer if they want to keep them a virgin then don't bring them to my ***** house.

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  22. bobss396
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    The LS is the future. They are a good design and can make lots of HP. You can go full computer, or even convert them over to a distributor and carb. They are already outfitted with roller cams, stock rockers are pretty nice too.
     
  23. finn
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    Actually, something like the Tesla powertrain is the future. The LS is just not so far in the past as a SBC.

    Neither of them belong on this forum.

    Keep the Hemi, or go with a Poly.

    This isn’t a Street Rodder forum.
     
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  24. rusty1
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    ...can't believe all the Chevy bashing,...sheesh,
     
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  25. bobss396
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    Posers... that walk a****st us....
     
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  26. 73RR
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    Allow me to appologize for all of the replies that have nothing to do with YOUR car and questions. ggeeesh
    Apparently some folks have forgotten their manners and never actually read the part about MOPAR desires.
    Front disc swap is pretty easy, www.rustyhope.com
    Swapping any engine newer than 1962 will require a rear axle swap since your e-brake is mounted on the trans tailshaft. Ford Explorer 8.8 is a good unit and cheap at the pik-n-pull. Yes, fab work is required.
    As to the engine, any LA/Magnum will fit nicely and again, not expensive. A FiTech will make driving more fun.
    Consider buying a wrecked pickup for engine/trans donation. In your part of the world I understand there are plenty of rust buckets. It will also provide alot of small stuff that you may need.
    I strongly suggest starting a new build thread and abandon this one.....

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  27. tubman
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    Ah, the voice of sweet reason!:)
     
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  28. 1934coupe
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    Money, money, money. It's always about money. Then you die, your tombstone reads "he saved money"

    Pat
     
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  29. tubman
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    During the era we're concerned with here, "Hot Rodding" was a "low buck" hobby, pursued mainly by working cl*** youths with entry level jobs. "Gold-Chainers" came a lot later.

    I would expect that a guy who put a SBC in a '54 Windsor in 1961 would have been a real hero a**** his contemporaries.
     
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  30. foolthrottle
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    Another possibility might be a 440 727 from a motor home, these have the parking brake drum on the back of the trans. The MH motor home/truck motor mounts would be better as well.
     
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