Hey nailheadroadster, I opted to return the tires, again and again until I got a set that wasen't outta round, I had bought them at Summit, and they gave me 2 more sets, both sets vibrated bad, turnes out they where outta round, so Summit had me a set drop shipped direct from Coker, Never tried the beads .. Royal pain, I have more in mounting and balancing than I do in the tires lol ...
Ran the ceramic beads in the front on my deuce. I had Coker BFGoodrich bias plies. The beads helped but did not solve the problem. New radicals solved the problem. I can go 75 no vibration. The view out front is no longer blurry due to vibration at speed. Sent from my SM-J320V using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
I had never heard of these. It doesn't sound like they would do anything but get spun out with centerfugal force? How does that help balance? Mad science!!
Know truckers use em. I currently use on my old Norton Commando bike. Not 100% sure how they work. Was told once they dont actually fix any balance issue. its more you are adding weight to the wheels that spins out and coats evenly the wheel. This added weight then kinda reduces the vibrations or something. Not sure but it seems to work for me.
Sounds like a major headache man! Well, good for you... glad you got it straightened out. Bummer for me... I was hoping for a real world answer from ya! LOL
Tonys Alignment in Louisville ky shaves tires, only new tires i think. Been around for many many years. They are located on poplar level rd.
My understanding is that when moving, centrifugal force does spin the beads. The bulk of the beads apparently are drawn to the areas that would typically have a weight (a light spot), and once the tire is balanced, the remainder of the beads just disperse evenly around the inside of the tire.
This topic came up at work one day so we turned to the internet to see how this works. We found a video that was going to show how it worked. Well, they said the beads get thrown out to the outer edge inside the tire and balance the tire, that did not help much. I guess it is just one of those things that we will never know. It seems to me that the heavy part of the tire would swing out in the larger circle when the tire rotates, and all the beads would go to that point. So I don't see how they work, but many people say they do.
I believe it's the opposite. The heavier point of the tire would rotate slightly faster when travelling from a 12:00 position to a 6:00 position (spinning towards the ground). As a result, centrifugal force would push the beads to the opposite. Once enough weight in beads were pressed to the oppose (lighter) side, the tire is in essence balanced, and the remaining beads evenly disperse.
Seems to me like the beads would get spread evenly inside the tire, so all its doing is adding an equal amount of weight all around, so its still the same, only slightly heavier. Maybe not, what the hell do I know.
'49 Chevy 1/2 ton, stock rims no tubes. 3rd set of Michelin radials with Dyna beads, 110 thousand miles. First set of tires, approx. 40-45 thousand miles (bought these gently used as a set), second set 55, third set with about 10 k miles. I was given a beautiful (my opinion) set of stock rims with original pin striping and I couldn't bear the thought of using ugly lead weights on those rims. The tires wear evenly every corner and my mileage is the testimony. Good luck with your decisions
I ran the air soft balls for maybe a couple hundred miles. I decided on some different tires. These were on traditional steel wheels. After removing the tires I discovered all the paint was gone on the wheels inside. Not good.
The video was interesting. At first it seems pretty convincing, but with a bit of thought one realizes that the beads probably outweigh the plastic bottle, and are numerous enough that they will form a "solid" layer since there are so many in relation to the internal size of the bottle. The first condition is not the same as with a car tire, the second condition, maybe.
The tire shop we used had set up a demonstration on their balancer where they deliberately added external weights to unbalance a rim then added the beads to try to prove that they didn't work. What he found is that they do work. This was with one of the older high-speed balancers. Our trucks were often driven in muddy areas and snow and ice built up on them in the winter. Having the ability to remain in balance through all of that is great.
There is a weight taped onto one side of the bottle so they are counter acting the effect that the weight has on the bottle not just spreading out inside it. Sent from my SM-G950W using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
I didn't have the volume turned up for a few seconds into the video, so I missed that part about the added weight. The idea of actually testing the darn things in balanced, unbalanced, out of round etc. tires on a balance machine seems the way to go, to get real test results.
I actually talked to a bead rep here and his impression was it may not help the condition I described however...after the revival of this thread I am going to order some for the heck of it. Worst case scenario is I'm out a few dollars and still need new fronts. I think I will add 4 ounces per front they are 5.50-16. I think I will also order the special valve stem cores to prevent any issues with leaks. He did say you can and he does not run the special valve cores just make sure when you let all the air out fill with the valve at 9:00 to prevent ceramic filling the stem and make sure the stem is free of any when you screw it in. At 2 bucks apiece I will get the valves to be safe. By the way I have tubes.
If your running on mostly stock suspension, you hafta admit, we're driving buckboards. I've rebuilt or replaced every component, including new wheels and bias plys (w/tubes) from Coker. In my quest to refine handling as much as possible, I figured..Dyna Beads, heck, why not? And I didn't want weights on my nice fresh wheels. I'm a big fan of Charlie Yapp at Secrets of Speed. He uses and swears by em. He even printed a piece on the HARD part...gettin the little *******s to flow evenly down the stem w/o clogging...a beautifully simple shop trick. So, my opinion? It's NEVER gonna be like drivin the F150, but it's just like drivin a brand new Buckboard!
I have been using the bead balancers, that are added between the tire and the hub, with excellent results, for over 30 years. My 55 uses an adapter that will balance out 6 oz when rotating, and I have a set on my 3/4 ton, that will balance out 8 oz. The advantage of having the beads in the tire, is that they will also balance a dynamic imbalance. The beads are hardened and there is virtually no wear because the beads are static in the tire once the tire is spinning. They will not correct for a tread separation or an out of round tire, but my son uses them in his motorcycle, and they are working great for him. Bob
I had a problem with my Herritage springer. The front wheel wobble at 44-50 mph was really bad, replaced bearings in wheel, gooseneck, rocker bushing, had the wheel trued and another new tire and balanced twice, still had the wobble. I put the dyna beads in took off the weights and took the bike out for a ride. What a difference and the tire has now about 3500 miles on it and no cupping of the tread like all the tires I had on it before. The most important thing that I like is that the beads keep the tire balanced thru out the life of the tire. I put them all my tires now. .
The greatest thing since sliced bread, just be sure the air you use is dry,dry,dry or better still nitrogen filled. Ralphie
A complete waste of time and money. I bought the kit and followed the instructions but when I called the company to ask about the vibration I was told that I needed to buy more of the beads and to add them . I asked why they didn’t send enough with the kit and was told the kit usually has enough for most tires. Now she tells me that I have to buy the additional beads that I’ll need . When I complained about the price the conversation went south and ended with her telling me to shut up and listen ,,, that’s when I hung up the phone. Next step was to take the wheels and tires to the tire shop to remove the beads and balance them the way I’ve been doing it forever. To those of you that have had success with this product, good for you, it obviously didn’t work for me.
There is a chart on the sites that list amount by tire size and perhaps you did that. I did as I said talk to a rep and he was helpful as my tire size was not listed and he suggested 4 ozs for my 5.5 x 16 firestone piecrusts with tubes. I will order the kits tomorrow and give it a whirl. Sorry it didn't work out. I think I will toss some in the back tires too perhaps after I do the fronts. I have weight on the front now and will try it weighted and then if no good mark the weights and remove them and try. I noted that it did say to buy a little extra to fine tune if needed. I know that's not much comfort for your experience.
Greek, you didn't listen when you should have,she was trying to help.Yes you needed to add more beads because you probably have one or more tires way out of round or? and the beads supplied where not enough simple as that. Tell us how much weight the tire shop added and did it solve your problem?
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