Art & Inspiration Do you ever wonder about really smart guys?

LOL, I was referring to a term we use at work when a person has recently been promoted to management and all his memory has been erased. Mass murder was the farthest thing from my mind.

 

Thanks, and if helps anyone to know, today I am using hammers and dollies to try to save an original Ford fender.

 

Gimpy, wouldn't results be more immieadiate if technolgy was used for BETTER driver training AND testing? Me thinks it's way too easy to get a license and keep it. Testing with an examiner should be more than a trip around the block once at 16, an occasional written test. It never ceases to amaze me how people think they can merge into a freeway at 45, or can't grasp the concept of slower traffic keeping to the right. Never mind accererating into a lane change, using turn singnals or mirrors, or keeping your eyes moving around you.

NOTHING helps me apperciate San Diego traffic and drivers more than a trip theough the OC and LA County, where I am surrounded by shitheads who wouuld be a hazard moving on anything faster than a horse. It's almost like these folk ate cases of Cracker Jack before they found a CA drivers license inside a lucky box. SoCal still has the BEST freeway system in the world, but some of the worst drivers on earth using it. Seems like shitty drivers are breeding MORE shitty drivers, sucking out the fun-factor more and more. I'm nervous as hell some days in my classic, but damn if I'm going to give up trips in it - NEVER!!!

I see it as a bass-ackwards progress, use of techolgy - smart cars for dumbasses to get around, when they woud be better off using public transportation, cabs or Uber. If we don't thin the herd on the front-end with improved, INTENSE testing, natural selection will do it on the backside, and some of us will be inocent victums if it.

 

It took Thomas Edison 5000 tries before he figured out how to make one. He was a bumbling tinkerer with mostly fails. His success was getting into the history books instead of Nicolas Tesla who was a true genius. Teslas first light bulb (the florescent) worked and it used less electricity, put off less heat and more lumens.

 

Absolute correct and well said.

 

You cannot make people smarter.

You cannot make people obey laws.

We've tried. It just doesn't stick.

Letting the dangerous ones off each other is still illegal.

US culture is car culture, otherwise this board wouldn't exist. Much, if close to all of our infrastructure is car-centric.

For the foreseeable future, cars, and crappy drivers will be a thing (not to mention otherwise good-to-go old folks, who should not be driving. We cannot just lock them all up in elderly detention camps).

Also, I'm tasked with not just autonomous vehicles, but stabilizing and bringing to market technology for conventional vehicles that keeps them out of collisions with other ones (including your classic) and people.

That will keep "regular drivers", Uber, Lyft, trucks, etc. from killing you, and your family.

And yeah, it is about profit. A business model that includes killing or maiming a sizable proportion of the customers is a terrible one.

Dead people don't buy anything.

 

Public transportation-hahaha. Show me how to use public transportation to get to my grandfathers house.
Its 2 miles south on this dirt road that google maps does not go down
https://www.google.com/maps/@31.958...180.00946&pitch=0&thumbfov=100!7i13312!8i6656

 

True, yet fundamentally impossible to implement.

 

I’ve posted this before, stupid people are taking over the Kanye wests and Kum Kardashianianianings?!?! If the world the YouTubers making millions and the twitter or what ever models hanging out their clam for “likes” and money.

Let’s face it fewer and fewer people are getting into trades and learning skills and I hear as well that fewer and fewer people are going to university for “ hard classes”
A lot of liberal arts and middle management b.s classes I know a guy who’s daughter was taking a course call “ hip hop music and how it relates to society” ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!?!
Her parents are paying thousands of dollars for what? So she can continue to live in there basement?

It’s not that technology is making people more stupid or dulling society. But allowing stupid people to be heard in a way never before seen.

STOP MAKING STUPID PEOPLE FAMOUS and the problem will go away.
And more and more the population is being controlled by “words” and not actions.
If I can cause an argument or a social
Break down by simply calling you names or getting you as the touchy-feely types say “triggered” then society as a whole suffers.
And that’s where we are at today

 

Being a civilized society ensures this. In primitive times they cleaned up their gene pools quite efficiently. If you couldn't get the skills to produce and contribute you didn't get to reproduce.

Just reading this forum is proof positive that creativity and innovation aren't dead.

 

Its cheaper, with more consistent results, to out engineer stupid than it is to educate it

 

That google map view looks like a scene from the movie North By Northwest. Mr. Grant arrived there by bus didn't he? Yeah, yeah I know is was the 50s. Just trying to lighten it up a bit.

 

Gimpy, How bout an autonomous car vision system that correctly interprets a "thumbs-up" at a red light, and hammers it?

 

Hi Deuces.Yep the P51 was and is a hotrod of the skies.But the British had a fighter/bomber that operated higher and faster.The Mosquito operational altitude in recon dress was appx 40,000 ft.Was fast enough that no armament was fitted in the photo recon mode.Was one of the three prettiest AC of WW2.The other two were the Spitfire and the P51D.You choose the order of the prettiest.
Good luck.Have fun.Be safe.
Leo

 

We could do hand-gesture recognition; however, using hand-gesture recognition would require that all Humans use correct and consistent gestures.

Not sure you want this, though. Even the slowest electric AV's are quicker than 60's muscle cars. A lowly Chevy bolt is quicker than most hotrods. In MSDR mode, 0-60 could be as low as 4-seconds, and it is one of the slowest out there.

 

Turns out Edison had to limit the "reveal" of his amazing new glowing bulbs to the public to five minute sessions. He'd give his shpeal, with the bulbs doing their magic, then close the curtain before they all burnt out...every time. Don't look behind the curtain!

 

or how about the first one to eat a mushroom?

 

Pretty, fast and icons in the war against Germany but it was the slow and steady Douglas SBD Dauntless that helped turned the tide in the Pacific. I'm partial though it being my fathers plane.

 

Driversless Cars

I bought a 2009 Chev Colorado, 4cyl, manual transmission. Told my kids they had to learn to drive it if they wanted to drive to school.

First benefit, it's a small truck so they can't load it up with their distracting friends. Second benefit, a stick shift made them THINK when driving! Is that light up ahead going to change (hope not 'cause I don't want to stop)? What gear should I be in for that corner? Am I on a hill when I stop? When should I downshift? Point is, it made them better drivers.

I get your "It will save lives" argument. But my fear is it is really just enablement, will result in dependency, and eventually lead to requirement. At that point, we are all a little dumber and lost another freedom.

 

Some of them are good on Pizza... Some of them will destroy the liver in hours. Horrible way to die.

 

I'm not sure where that info came from--Any way to document that as I'd be really interested.

Actually 23 different people had operating light bulbs in some fashion before Thomas Edison. After many thousand failures he hit on carbonized string in a vacuum. Another couple thousand efforts and he came up with tungsten wire in an inert gas.

The really neat thing about all his failures is that he felt he was making progress with each failure. His theory was that, eventually, he would run out of bad options and hit the good one. I'm pretty sure that I'm not wired that way(no pun intended)

 

Morbid or Smart? I'd be the one that watches who dies by which mushroom.

 

Man....this has been a thought provoking and entertaining thread, I sincerely hope it goes the distance.
(Lotta big words boys, I'm pushing my abilities)
It does seem to me that soon, very soon we'll get cars with the option to drive, and soon after that, no option to drive, only to ride. Under the guise of public safety.

 

Which came first....Bell or Gray...it came down to who could run faster to the Patent office
You have to drive a hot rod.....a new car almost drives itself......
Cars down't lie ...but people will ( my quote I use during fire investigations)

 

Not impossible to implement. In every state, including your own state of California, there are penalties for operating a vehicle incorrectly, negligent driving, DUI, missing license plate light and so on. The penalties go up with the more incidents the operator is involved in. I have seen in the Ventura County courthouse, several people who were convicted for the fifth time of driving without a license and/or insurance. If they lost their driving privileges, they were slapped on the wrist with a light fine and sentenced to cutting brush in the Santa Clara river bottoms on weekends. In some cases, they were allowed to keep their driving privileges for the purpose of work. Where is the incentive for the individual to not do wrong again? Why not just hit the operator with a penalty large enough to make him or her step back, take a look at their actions, and decide not to do that again? Of course, there is always the person who thinks that he or she is above the law and will continue that action no matter the consequences. That person should be denied the privilege of driving forever and if he or she persists, should be jailed. When a person reaches say, 66 years old, the age at which most of us retire, why not a regular mandated physical and written test in order to maintain a driver's license. I'm 74, and until two years ago, when I was driving a commercial vehicle over the road, I had to have a DOT physical every two years and a written examination covering all my endorsements in order to keep my license.

Drivers with known medical conditions such as high blood pressure were required, depending on the severity of the problem, to have a physical more often. Usually at one year intervals but, in some cases, every six months.​

I still have a CDL to this day. When I can no longer meet the medical requirements or, through testing, show that I am current on the rules, I will lose it. If the Federal Government can mandate when my commercial driving privileges must stop, why can't your state government do the same thing with people who only hold an operators license ?

I apologize to the other HAMB members for this rant and will not comment on this thread again.

 

As your own statement says, people continue to drive even when they have been suspended.
States have the right to revoke your driving , but the sad reality is the system is set up to fail.

 

You don't need to be a repeat offender to kill someone with a car. It only takes a few seconds of inattention.

Driving safely all the time, for several decades, is not an easy thing to do. I think that's why we've killed millions of Americans over the past century or so, on our roads.

But mostly, we seem to still think it's worth the risk.

The next few decades will be interesting.

 

Things like that keep me awake at night...

 

Who was the first guy to look at the south end of a north bound pig and said "I want to eat some of that (ham that is) .