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Discussion in 'The Antiquated' started by Roothawg, May 19, 2018.

  1. I hate to ask, but I hope this isn't the one that was lost in an accident this year.
    Bob
     
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  2. I'm a former Voodoo driver, 409 Blackhawks. I have a couple of Lavois LA-265 scopes that I used at home for years. I did the tour through the SAGE facility at Detroit, and North Bay. This was back in the mid 60s, and was very impressive.
    Bob
     
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  4. XC-99, two B-36 fuselages combined for use as a cargo aircraft during the Korean War. It flew over 5,000 hours and was retired. I saw, and did the tour through it at Kelly AFB in the early 70s. It was the worlds biggest aircraft for a lot of years.
    Bob
     
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    9 0 9 Was the B-17 that crashed recently.
     
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  6. A dog in flight. No blower, and no pilot oxygen, so it was confined mostly to the ground attack role. The majority of them went to the USSR (Lend Lease). The engine was behind the pilot, and they hated the arrangement, knowing that the prop shaft went right between their legs.
    The later version, the P-63, was a significant improvement.
    Bob.
     
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  7. That was a sad day. Any one know the cause?
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    Nine 0 Nine , the B-17 that crashed, belonged to the Colling's foundation. 7 of the 13 onboard didn't survive. It wasn't making full power and tried to return to the field right after take off. NTSB hasn't determined the cause yet.
     
  9. Thanks, sorry to hear that. It would have to have been a serious loss of power, because at low gross weight, those things would do fine single engine. Not a fun day, but doable. Boeings have a lot of wing, and they are normally pretty forgiving. It will be interesting to learn the actual cause.
    Bob
     
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    Bob man don't just glance off of being a F101 driver, the Voodoo was a hell of a plane especially for its time. I mean think about it mac 1.6 in 1957 was quite a deal. Here's a pic for you Bob. voodoo.jpg
     
  11. Just like me, they are all on a concrete post somewhere.
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  12. 41 GMC K-18
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    Hey fellow wing nuts, if you want to read and view a great story, look on you tube for the video of Connie Edwards and all of the ME 109's and engines and parts he had out in a warehouse in Texas. This man is a true flying legend, and a hell of a great guy!
     
  13. khead47
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    Can someone explain to me why all the radial engines have an odd number of cylinders ?
     
  14. The reason that radial engines have an odd number of cylinders is that the firing order is set to fire alternate cylinders, i.e. 1-3-5-7-2-4-6. If there were an even number, there would be two adjacent cylinders that would fire, then the rest would fire in their "fire one-skip one" sequence.
    This would result in the power cycles causing an induced vibration.
    Bob
     
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    I am planning my first trip to Oshkosh next year. Love the sound of radials.
     
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    When you do go to Oshkosh, be sure to plan on one day for the seaplane base, say about mid week, there is shade and water, lots of plane action in a very laid back atmosphere, you won't regret it.
     
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  18. Hombre
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    jock, I am going to have to correct you just a little and with a smile. There is a even numbered radial engine out there, as a matter of fact more than one. The one that comes quickly to mind is my most favorite airplane the F4U, these great planes used a 18 cylinder radial. The Pratt and Whitney R 2800 Double Wasp. Now with that said and there being an even numbered cylinder radial, your statement above is correct as well. Wonder how that could be??
     
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    2 X 9 = 18 the last time I knew anything.
     
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    from Tulsa, Ok.

  21. 41 GMC K-18
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    Gentlemen, I have to step in here and choose my words carefully, because I know the participants on this particular thread are far wiser than I and have far more experience than I do.

    That being said, let me introduce you all, to a very rare engine that was manufactured in 1926 by the Fairchild corporation. The engine is the " Fairchild-Caminez Cam " engine that is a 4 cylinder radial engine built in the shape of an X, and gentlemen, this is indeed a very cool, very rare, very unique piece of original engineering that will blow your mind!

    Just go to your web search and punch in KELCH AVIATION MUSEUM, go to that website and then hit the tab of " autos and artifacts ". There you will see the engine in its display case, and the very cool little video of how the engine works, will reveal how it was possible for the engine to function, prepare your selves to be amazed!

    Even more amazing is the fact that, the engine was originally on display in Sherman Fairchilds office, Al Kelch had deep pockets and a lot of influence and was able to procure it for his display, that is amazing to say the least.
    Dennis.
    Here is a teaser!
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    Thought I'd share these photos of boys adventure books. I've had them posted in the for sale section without much interest, I think you guys might appreciate the photos. DSCN3409.JPG DSCN3411.JPG DSCN3412.JPG DSCN3413.JPG DSCN3415.JPG DSCN3416.JPG DSCN3417.JPG DSCN3418.JPG
     
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  23. xix32
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    The Curtiss Challenger was ( is) a 6 cylinder radial, in my dad's old 1929 Command-Aire, but is actually two three cylinders banks attached to the case one behind the other,
     
  24. Hombre
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    Here is a "two row" Curtiss Challander 6 cylinder radial. Radial engine.jpg
     
  25. khead47
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    Thanks.
     
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    That shot of the Curtiss Challenger 2 row 6 cylinder radial engine is appreciated, but to the untrained eye, its deceptive as you cant see that the cylinders are staggered and that it is indeed 2 rows of 3 cylinders, so this 3 cylinder Anzani radial engine on this Lincoln sport will illustrate what a single row 3 cylinder radial looks like. There also is a shot of the Aeromarine 3 cylinder radial engine as well.

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    P&W R 4360 Major Wasp was 28 cylinder. 4 rows of 7.
     
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  28. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    Hey Bob, That must have been a thrill. This one was remarkably nimble and as I stood there the gentlest breeze would turn it into the wind. IMG_0363.JPG IMG_0364.JPG
     
  29. blue 49
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    A couple of my friend's projects. 1936 Rearwin Sportster and a 1946 Aeronca Champ. 002.jpg
     
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