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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 34Larry, Nov 13, 2020.

  1. $um Fun
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    This is exactly how he did it, the two ring gears are meshed. This was done for fun, he was 6'-3" and for us it was always entertaining to see him get in the car. His real calling was upholstery and some of his work won at Pebble Beach and other shows.
     
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  2. Kids now days are quick to judge for sure. If it's not boring it's not period correct. The RR movement sure taught some good lessons to ya. Ya, I could do without the Bowling pin but if he were here to explain what it means to him we'd probably even get it. What appears to be Street Legal twin motor Hot Rod, that's about as Bad Ass as you could get in the 60's. Think Ed Roth Mysterion and put it in the same place at the same time. What ya got now?
     
  3. 5window
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    Well, you have been here 17 years and should know this is a site dedicated to "traditional" hot rods and customs. Which this is not. And, we sure as anything don't want to start up with the drama that gets threads closed. It is an interesting concept, looks well built, and obviously pleased its owner/builder (which is all that matters). I still don't like it.

    Hmm, sorry. I seem to be posting with the Oxford comma today and, still after all these years, struggling with the possessive form of its, which is not the contraction form it's. A little Monday confusion.
     
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  4. The37Kid
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    HAMB era fine. But I some how like that Coupe.
     
  5. treb11
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    Respectfully 5window, I think you are mixing "period correct" and "I don't like it".
    To me it looks like the guy finally built what he would have if he had possessed the means BITD.
    You can drag out the old magazines and there was some pretty wierd looking shit built then.
     
  6. 5window
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    I can allow that possibility.
     
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  7. 34Larry
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    Fordors wrote: The engines are joined at the flywheel, the ring gears are meshed, causing one engine to run backwards. The right side engine is CW rotation and the left CCW requiring a reverse rotation cam.
    Did not Ivo do the same, seems I recall reading he did. Anyway, I wonder if the flywheels were machined to have larger gear teeth and thicker in width for strength purposes?? The dizzy (as called by many here) would also have to run in reverse I'd venture on the CCW motor. Really would have been fun and interesting to play around with I think.
     
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  8. -Brent-
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    From Pat Ganahl's article: (emphasis added)

    "I did mention inventiveness, exuberance, and more of everything, right? Yes, Rich Elliott’s whacked and chopped A coupe has two Chevy engines with four carbs and a Vertex mag each. He said he threw it together from “parts in the yard” not long before the show, and considered it more of an art piece than a street rod. However, it was apparently fully functional. Red wall tires are unique. No, the valve covers don’t match. And other questions abound on this one. All I can say is that it had nothing to do with Valley Head Service. And I’ve never seen it again, anywhere, in the last 15 years."

    Sometimes stuff is built for shock value and conversation. That's what a lot of art does.

    Pat's blog: https://patganahl.com/2020/11/12/hot-rat-rod-suede-show/
     
  9. There were many applications of Marine motors in pairs that one ran in reverse rotation. Marine Hemi's were pretty common. We didn't really have to start from Zero with an idea. Just modify as needed.
     
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  10. 34Larry
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    Great stuff from all here. Me............I like different..............if it's "good" different. And what's "good"
    different? Well as being demonstrated here, it's all in the eyes of the beholder.
     
  11. -Brent-
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    In the Suade Palace, some of it was "all in the eyes of the beer-holder." Ha ha ha.
     
  12. I remember that car. we discussed it here at least once 15 years back.
     
  13. seb fontana
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    If you need an engine to run reverse then you swap the chain camshaft drive for a gear drive. The cam, dist, oil pump still go standard direction, just the crank goes in reverse. For ign timing BTC is now on the opposite side of the TDC mark.
     
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  14. Fordors
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    It would be that simple if Isky still made his SBC gear drive, but that hasn’t been marketed in years, all the gear drives today have idlers that would put the cam back into CCW rotation.
    I’m not aware of a two gear GD but I guess there could be one out there on the market.
     
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  15. gimpyshotrods
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    Looks like the back room at The Cow Palace (San Francisco). I recognize some of the cars in the background, but not this one.
     
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  16. gimpyshotrods
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    Car in the background. This picture was taken at Billetproof Nor Cal. DSCN0823.jpeg
     
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