Hi all, Will a 63 Galaxie t10 fit a 64 Galaxie? I want to replace the Fordomatic. Someone near me has a rebuilt T10B-1 WG DIV W-1, T10B-7 WG DIV W-1 with shifter and bellhousing but when I look that up it says 61, 62, 63 Galaxie/Fairlane. More looking around it says some 64s came with the t10 but I can't find the part numbers for those. Will that 63 t10 fit the 64? I can find the 64 toploader numbers and there is an HEH-D a little further away without bellhousing or linkage or shifter but I'm having a hard time tracking down a bellhousing. Thanks.
Yes, as long as you get the correct bellhousing that has the same bolt pattern as the transmission. My 64 Galaxie had a T-10 in it. Early 64s had the T-10 and later had the toploader if I recall correctly.....I might be wrong, but who cares?
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According to my 64 Ford shop manual, The B-W T-10 was the transmission used in that year. I think the top loader did come out in late 64, but not sure if it was used in the 64 models as it is not referenced in my manual. The T-10 from the 63 will be a direct fit if both cars were FE engine cars. The 260 engine used a smaller input shaft I believe. You will also need all of the ***ociated clutch/brake pedal linkage and equalizer bar out of the 63 or a 64, as well as a floor pan cover for the gear shift. There also may be a driveshaft change involved.
The toploader was brand-new in '64 and Ford had issues getting production up and running. Demand was higher than expected also, so Ford attempted prioritized usage by motor size. The 427 got the toploader as the T10 wasn't up to it's power output (which was the whole reason Ford designed it), lesser motors generally got the T10 although you could find some toploaders in 'lesser' cars on a hit-or-miss basis. Generally, the full-size, FE-powered cars got toploaders, the small-block cars got the T10 but you would find exceptions. Ford phased out the T10 over the next three years, by '68 the T10 was gone from production cars. Interestingly enough, Ford still used the T10 as 'service replacements' if a toploader wasn't available when needed for several more years beyond '68 (particularly for the early-pattern '64s), so that muddied the waters even more.
Early 64 427 Galaxies also used the T-10,I have a 1'st day 64 production R-code and it came with the T-10,it was number 11 off the line that first day of production at the twin cities plant.there were also lots of 390 cars that still got it,I think the race teams and specialty cars got the toploaders first and as production ramped up ***embly lines started getting them.Provided the T-10 your looking at is a Galaxie box with the big divot in the top of the longer tailshaft housing at the shifter mount you should have no trouble making it work.As far as the bellhousing just make sure to use a car bellhousing and not a truck bell with the external ribs it is deeper and not compatible with a big block T-10 or toploader,if your using a longer input shaft small block trans then the truck bell will work.Also make sure to run matching starters and flywheels,64 and earlier flywheel with early long nose inertia starter,65 and later flywheel with short nose later style starter.The 64 and earlier bell will work either starter flywheel combo just limited to 11" clutch and the 65 and later bell will only work with the late style starter and flywheel but will allow use of 11.5 " clutch but you have to match your trans bolt pattern.Most of the 65 and later Toploaders and Ford T-10's have both bolt patterns so they will work with either bell but thats not the case of the earlier trans. so make sure to check compatibility while its on the floor of your shop.
Late (Wide, 65 & up) -vs- early (Narrow, pre-65) bolt patterns, you'd require the correct bellhousing, flywheel, starter to suit your application. I run a narrow pattern Galaxie T10 in my FE powered 64 Fairlane. If you were closer, I'd have everything you require apart from the transmission as I'm swapping out the OEM Ford bellhousing, flywheel, clutch etc in my car and upgrading.
I am looking for one. There is one a few hours away from me without any linkage or anything else, but it's just my luck I found those online elsewhere. I have the 390 so I'd need the HEH-D.
Lots of good info, thanks guys. It seems this will fit then. This is the setup I was looking at. The Z bar, fork, pedal, flywheel, clutch I can easily get.
There's this jewel if you can't find the later-pattern bell... Ford Narrow pattern SBF/BBF to Ford 3550/TKO adapter with standard input shaft - Modern Driveline I'm in the same boat; the '65-up bells are big $$$ if you can find one, this will allow a later trans to fit. Or a TKO...
Years back I had a 65 Galaxie and dropped a toploader in it. I found all the components on the auction bay.
For whatever its worth...I know the guy who is selling that trans you pictured. If it still belongs to Chuck in Idyllwild, he is a veteran and a stand up dude. Ive bought many things from him over the years...he is an old school hot rodder, and a nice guy as well.
That's him! I have a buddy in Hemet who said he could pick up the trans but I won't see him any time soon and I'm about 6 hours away. I think Chuck says he'll work on shipping but I don't know how much that will cost.
The setup you have pictured will work great,plus you can run the later starter and flywheel if you want.Check the casting number on the bell it should be a C3AA or a weird one like MG 6392 if its for an FE,you will have to unbolt it from the trans to be able to see it though.
I've been in the very shed that trans is in...lol. id think shipping that would be a bear..its gotta weigh near 100 lbs
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