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Technical What kind of gun to paint a car with a small compressor??

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Al, Feb 6, 2021.

  1. Al
    Joined: Feb 12, 2005
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    Al
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    from Duluth, Mn

    I don't. Now I am looking at a Turbine. Don't need water traps. Runs on 120 Volts. That is a nice compressor, but I Don't have the 220 Volts in the garage.
     
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  2. larry k
    Joined: Feb 23, 2009
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    Rent,borrow,or lease ,a 244 cubic feet tank of dry nitrogen ,put a regulator on it and paint it .you will have plenty on wind to paint a large car.did it that way in the military many times.
     
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  3. Al
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    Al
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    from Duluth, Mn

    Maybe I'll try the turbine first..
     
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  4. 0NE BAD 51 MERC
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    Al, my first two answers to your post where as a body man trying to provide you with a professional opinion. That was before I knew your cir***stances. All you want is to take something you have spent 20 years of your life working on and just want to enjoy it in a finish form that you can say "I did that!" while you still can. If that car has been covered in that primer for over 20 years and has not bubbled up into a pile of **** and your spray can primer has not lifted . Then scuff it with 320, put a couple coats of your Eastwood stuff on it and sand that with 600 to minimize sand scratch's under the top coat and paint it in single stage white. It will last as long as it takes to make you happy and the next guy can decide whether to redo it or just enjoy it too! Best wishes! Larry
     
  5. Al
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    Al
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    from Duluth, Mn

    Thanks Larry. It is nice to get advice from someone that is not trying to bring me down because I am not as smart as them, or I don't use the same products, or have all of those hours of painting under my belt.
    There is no lifting on any of the paint on the car. Only times it has been out of the garage is to turn it around. Like I said the only help I have had is from youtube, or people on different sites. I have spent many hours doing this car. From teaching myself how to weld to making my own floors. I am not sure I did everything the right way, but I tried. It stars, it runs, and it moves. I even made my own interior. Now I have to paint it. I have a good NEW mask. I will have an area to paint the car which I will have to build myself. I bought a used turbine sprayer. I have to try.. Thank you for your advice Larry
     
  6. goldmountain
    Joined: Jun 12, 2016
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    goldmountain

    Al, I'm like you in trying to paint my car without spending a fortune and purchased a used 2 stage turbine painter. Not enough power to spray the primer so I ordered a larger nozzle for the gun. Ended up borrowing a hvlp primer gun and spraying with my small compressor which did a better job than the turbine unit. I might end up taking the body over to a friend who has a huge compressor.
     
  7. Gearhead Graphics
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    Gearhead Graphics
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    from Denver Co

    Interested to see how the turbine does for you. Ive heard so many mixed answers, Ive considered one for myself as I dont have enough air capacity either.

    YOU CAN DO THIS!
     
  8. goldmountain
    Joined: Jun 12, 2016
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    goldmountain

    Check out Blue One's build thread. He went through all this and ended up hopping up his turbine with a 6 stage unit. I read that but thought he was over doing it. His car came out nice. My usual mistake - I went cheap. It costs money to upgrade to a better turbine and spray gun. There is an older thread on HVLP turbines on the HAMB.

    Sent from my SM-T350 using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
     
  9. Al
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    Al
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    from Duluth, Mn

    I am buying a used $900. turbine 4 for $300. It will paint the car. Already talked to selling them. You need at least a 4 or a 5 to paint a car. High fill would have to be reduced just a bit more. Same with a clear coat. It has to be reduced just a bit more to lower the orange peel. I may also get lucky. Talked with the College teaching Auto Body. I might be able to get my car in a year, or by the end of Summer. That gives me enough time to get the wiring done, and new crush washers on a power steering line. Otherwise most of it is done. Oh also the emergency brake has to be finished. Then I want to take the car to a good mechanic, and have him look it over to make sure it is safe, and will start. I can't adjust the Holley by putting it in gear without a good brake. I can block the tires, but I don't trust that, and there is no one to help me..
     
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  10. goldmountain
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    goldmountain

  11. Al
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    Al
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    from Duluth, Mn

    I canceled buying it. I went to the College today I sent them pictures of the car. They wanted to do it now. It is sitting in a unheated garage. It would take a lot to get it started now. Also have to wire in all of the lights. Started that, then it got way to cold to finish. I also have to put gas in it. I was told last year to take it out. So now the teacher said that I would be able to bring it in in Late Summer or early Fall. He told me not to even spray on the high fill primer. The body looked straight enough. Just have to wire it.
    Then we can talk about colors, because the car would be straight and even. The teacher said they won't let a car out until they are all proud of their work.. Good enough for me..
     
  12. Blues4U
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    from So Cal

    While it is best to make the carb adjustments with the car in gear (on an auto shift trans equipped car), it is not mandatory, you can and should go ahead and make the adjustments with it in neutral or park and idling. It may not be the ultimate method, but it is still good. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
     
  13. A Boner
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    Can I ***ume you are going to take the fenders off?
    Do a test...try painting 1 fender!
    For a driver paint job, you might consider painting 1 panel at a time...way less stress. Might have to plan more than a few days to complete the whole project.
     
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  14. Budget36
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    S****e, don’t sand, a bit off and make sure the metal is still shiny and isn’t rusting under it. If not the sand/scuff and get after it.
    I’ve been down the “we need to take it down to bare metal and start over” price as well, this is days after I just got done doing that and primered the damn thing. All I wanted was a sand and paint. The cost shops wanted was out of my price range. Only one that would do as I asked was MAACO.
     
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  15. Slopok
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    Have it towed there now while you have the chance, when you get it back you can ****on up all the lose ends you have before the weather gets too cold again to do anything yourself. Maybe even buy a heater for your garage so you won't be in the same position you're in now next year. 20 years is a long time to wait for your dream to come true!
     
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  16. 0NE BAD 51 MERC
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    Al, good on you for having the guys at the collage do this for you. Your not risking more damage to your lungs and they get to learn body and paint on something cool instead of throw away plastic late models!;) lol Minnesota has the a gazillion cl***ic car guys, hard to believe there isn't a couple hundred around Duluth! keep us posted and maybe see you at Back to the 50's in 2022! Larry
     
  17. Tow Truck Tom
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    from Clayton DE

    Obviously one must follow the wish of the benefactor. Meantime if you need to tune in drive maybe sort out the E brake. Then you may chock the fronts and set the rear axle on a good pair of jackstands. then with the rears locked and in the air. the fronts chocked you can breathe easy while running in gear
     
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  18. Al
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    Al
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    from Duluth, Mn

    It is 8:39PM it is -11. Going to be -25 tonight. The school is going to set the carb, and I will have them fool with those brakes. The only thing I am going to do is power up the windows. They are down now..
     
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  19. Al
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    Al
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    from Duluth, Mn

    Yes there are a lot of them. I don't know any of them, and the ones I did know have p***ed away. Others are way to busy, and one guy wanted to clean my tires using a wire wheel on the drill. I will figure it out someway Took me all of these years doing things myself. Are they right?? I am not sure. I hope so.. Built my floors, and had to make a firewall. When I bought the car the motor mounts were set 9" back. I didn't know that I already had taken the body off the frame, and put the motor in. I then had the body in the air and was lowering it back on the frame. The firewall hit midway on the motor. Only thing I could do was cut out the firewall to lower the body, because it was slipping. I made my own firewall twice, because it didn't look right the first time looks better now. I will figure things out..
     
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