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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by KarKrazy56, Jun 6, 2021.

  1. KarKrazy56
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    I was acquired this vehicle but don't know what it exactly is. Im thinking it may be a 33 Chevy but not sure. The car has no title either. What is it worth? Thank you.
     

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  2. hotrodjack33
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    the body looks like a 1930-31 Ford Model A Tudor cut down into a Phaeton. Frame could be Chevy?!?. Rear axle looks to be a 9" Ford.

    I probably wouldn't build it...too many mis-matched parts. The body could be saved (neat firewall)...so I'd say about $1000-$1500 in parts...maybe $2000 depending the condition of the engine.
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  3. squirrel
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    spot on description and recommendation...although

    that's a 55-64 Chevy car type rear, it doesn't have the separate pinion bearing retainer you'd see on a Ford rear.

    I'd assume the engine is worth it's weight in scrap iron, judging by the general theme of the car
     
  4. Add some roadster quarters and you've got the makings of a cool rod :)
     
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  5. 1971BB427
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    Parallel front leaf springs indicate a Chevy frame.
     
  6. goldmountain
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    The body don't look too bad but you never know what is lurking below the paint.
     
  7. arkiehotrods
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    Food for thought
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  8. squirrel
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    there's a long ways between those two cars you've pictured, and the one that we're talking about in this thread!
     
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  9. 51504bat
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    The title or lack there of is another (very important) issue. Don't know how hard it is to get a title in NJ. Especially for one with a miss mass of parts.
     
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  10. Squirrel is right on the money,,,,as always .
    Also,,,,,,it has at least three different wheels ,,,,,can’t see the fourth one .
    It’s cobbled together,,,,,,,to get someone to bite .
    No title,,,,,good luck to whoever has it,,,,,,,engine looks like it was just placed in there .

    Tommy
     
  11. trevorsworth
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    Snip! I forgot slant window Model As were a thing.
     
  12. redo32
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    If you've got a little money to spend and if there's not too much bondo in the body it can make a good looking piece. Buy a repo '32 frame with a certificate of origin, with receipt for the body and running gear you can get an assembled title in most states.

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  13. hotrodjack33
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    Definitely a "homemade" slantwindow. Doors are too long and the hinges are wrong for a '31 Slantwindow sedan body.
     
  14. Budget36
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    If you can title or register it, and the price is right, why not? It’s definitely not a 5k starter project, but might have enough there to get you going without a lot of $$ up front.
    I understand those who would say spend more for better, but if you don’t have the budget to start off with a more expensive project, buying cheaply and putting dollars into it over time eases the pain. Sure, you’ll probably wind up spending more, but it’s easier to swallow a few hundred here and there over X-years, rather than coming up and spending Y-dollars now.
     
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  16. Hot Rods Ta Hell
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    Check on the title issue before you spend any money on it. Title work in NJ could be anywhere between a Breeze and a Bitch.

    Firewall looks like it was robbed from a (too small to fit your body) fiberglass body.

    Parallel leaf front axles just don't "work" on a Hiboy. You have your work cut out for you, but it could work into a fun, low buck project if you're doing it right and with your own labor and the title issue can be sorted out.
     
  17. clem
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    Shorten the body and build a bucket out of it.........?
     
  18. wheeldog57
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    Parallel front leaf springs does not always mean Chevrolet. All GM cars and light trucks of the era ran these. Chrysler did too. That front crossmember does not look like Chevrolet but I've been wrong before. . .
     
  19. greybeard360
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    Frame looks like it has been spliced together in a few spots. I don't see any rear springs either. Looks like a round tube was just ahead of the rear crossmember at some point... Coil overs?
     
  20. dana barlow
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    1. Y-blocks

    With out a title,you got nothing. Do not put a lot of work in to a pile of parts,tell you have Title,or all you'll ever have is just parts.
     
  21. Squablow
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    Definitely looks like an A sedan with the roof cut off, and I'd bet any money this build started out on a different frame. Why else would anyone channel that firewall inward so far when it's not even remotely close to the engine?

    If I had to guess, someone was building this car, it got sold to someone who used the frame under some other body and stuck this frame together as a roller to sell the body.

    As for value, it's still a buildable body if you're into touring cars, at least it's steel and not all rotten. But the frame is pretty worthless, other than maybe the rearend, and I'm guessing the engine and trans are junk unless proven otherwise. If this was on Marketplace for $1500 I'm sure someone would buy it, so that's what I'd value it at, retail.
     
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