I had seen a few in some of the old gasser books from the 60's and know that guys did successfully run turbo's on V8's in the 60's and probably earlier. I'd like to see some more pictures and info on them if anyone has any. I've got a lead on an old ford that was supposed to have run a Ford 427 with two turbos but I don't know what the turbochargers would have been?
A few years ago at a MoPar show, a guy had a '68 Charger with twin turbos on a 440. I think he turned the manifolds upside down and made new flanges to mount the turbos. Made it all himself. I don't think he was running an intercooler. And I think the turbos were blowing through one Holley 850. It was pretty impressive and he said it went like HELL!
you wouldn't want to use those turbos anyway, parts are hard to get and technology has come so far its silly. they could have been aircraft turbos, they have been around for a long time.
I don't want them, but is it really that hard to search? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/search.php?searchid=831438 took me several seconds to find this info. Try it, you'll like it! (I know I sounded like a hardass, but this question comes up so often and gets answered so often that it does get tiring....please don't take it personal!)
There's a really good source -- junkyardturbo board on yahoo.com area if memory serves me right. Lots of very interesting and very backyard engineered systems and some of them go pretty darn good. Inline guys have it made for simple plumbing, but some creative uses of reversed headers on a V8 can lead to interesting stuff too. Go for it guy!
who cares if turbos are new or old school they provide the most efficient power gains attainable. that means i like it
hmmmmm , twin turbo street terror. yeah its not old but its an 8 with twin turbos so i figure its forgivin
Go get this month's HotRod magazine for a look at a current dual turbo set-up. 1000HP on 91 octane, 12-15 inches of vacuum at a 700RPM idle. If you step up to race fuel and turn up the wick it'll kick out 1500HP and 1000ft/lbs of torque....all in before 6000RPM. Not old school and super high dollar but you can't deny the attractiveness of all that power while using pump swill and an idle smooth enough to pass as an almost stocker with a little bit of cam. Taking advantage of current turbo and wastegate technology while still running a (more or less) traditional ignition and carburation system is very feasable, especially if your not shooting for all-out max power and you keep the tune conservative. -Bigchief.
I kind of like the idea of somehow puting these two together, but it just seems like a horrific accident waiting to happen.
check out this web~site http://www.cobraautomotive.com/horsepower.htm one of this was installed in a 67-427 Fairlne and one in a original Cobra
I wouldnt even call running a carb and "traditional" ignition setup a comprimise for all out power. A trip over to turbomustangs.com will give you a fair supply of 800-1200hp cars running blow through carb setups If you really want all out power without running a "non traditional" looking intercooler you can run methanol which can make for some nice numbers without the need for intercooling.
Don't have any info on this one, but It looked like an older build that someone redid and modernized with IFS front and rear among other things.
I run a single draw through turbo setup on my non hamb friendly camaro. Its on the SBC and is really mild. Still makes about 400rwhp/500rwft-lbs torque. I was looking at a carburated 302 with a twin blow through setup with a water/air intercooler.
Those are superchargers on that FE in the photo. Back in the sixties Carrol Shelby built two twin Paxton supercharged Cobras. One for himself and another for Bill Cosby (which inspired his 200mph comedy routine). One was destroyed (no suprise) and the remaining one is or was being restored. -Bigchief.
At last years Billet Proof I meant an older gentleman who had a twin turbo flathead in his Ford Pickup. I think it was a 33-34 can't remember and my batteries died in my camera so I didn't get a pic. It was pretty damn nice. I spoke to him for awhile, nice guy. He had a Banks twin turbo blow thru set up with dual wastegates. He said it was really fast in that understated, modest sly grin kind of way that we all know means trouble. He was still breaking it in and said it was only set at about 8 psi but could go up to 15 or so. Generally speaking, very generally. it's approx 10-20 hp for every 1 psi increase, everything else being equal. Thats not set in stone it is just to give an idea of the potential. Hope to see the old pickup and it's owner again.
talking turbo's my first thought is Mallicot brothers and when you say 60's I think factory turbo's corvair and F-85 olds. then you talk FE block ford I
Hello all, Already posted my intro, new to the board. My dad has a homebuilt single turbo blow-thru setup on his T-bucket that he built in the late eighties. Still going strong. It's a 302 with 351 heads. Runs on propane with alcohol injection for high boost situations. Alcohol injection is merely a windshield washer pump and resevoir hooked to a microswitch. Windshield washer fluid makes a serviceable coolant. Plumbing is the exhaust manifolds turned upside down and swapped side to side. Piping over the top rear of the engine to a flange that mounts the turbo. A homemade spring loaded adjustable wastegate controls boost. I'm not sure of the manufacturer or part number of the turbo, but it came from a guy in town who had it on a Farmall M pulling tractor. It looks like a beater as tand definitely makes the small block Chevy illuminati scratch their heads. I'll try to take some pics this weekend and get them posted if anyone is interested. Matt
Yeah, I'd love to see more on this one. There is a T-bucket here in town with two turbos on a sbc and I beleive it was built by Jim Strange in the 1970's. It still seems to be running well and I've heard it's never been rebuilt but I don't know much about it. I used to have a RayJay twin turbo setup for an FE but I never had the knowledge to set it up and run it. It seems like you can get marine twin setups pretty reasonably. They just take up an assload of room under the hood and aren't always so pretty.
If you want to think traditional...look up the Turbo Honker. Back in 1964 they took a superstock hemi dodge named the Hemi Honker and turbocharged it too run inthe exhibition classes. It aparrently was a monster... So I guess turbos are traditional!
malicoat brothers did the turbo deal on their willys.....made like a 100 more hp than the blower motor.....it was probably from about this time....64-65 ish.....worth looking into .....brandon
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