Hi, I'm looking for anyone that has any info on the V8-60. Performance, advice, parts, etc. For a street application. I'm looking to put my V8-60 in a Sunday cruiser style t-bucket and was just looking for some assistance. I'm currently also building a 255 Merc and it's going great. There's just not as much info on the little flathead.
I would keep it stock except maybe change out the intake for a 2x2 and that's only if you want to. Headers, of course. Others will tell you to go all out but don't. No need to if it's just a cruiser. It'll sound nice and flathead lopy with the headers. Not too much performance in a V8-60. It's only 60hp but it'll get you from point A to point B.
It's all in how you talk to to the wee critters. The last "60" that I built for my sports racer Almquist Crosley was anything but slow. The last time I raced it at Laguna Seca they had installed a readerboard on the overhead walkway at the end of the first straight. I might add the the straight was uphill. That little 60 would beller through the '36 Ford driveshafts and click of 110mph speeds on every lap, at about 5,600 rpm. Doesn't get more fun that that !!!!
do a search here, and online - subject well covered - for a street car do not expect to the same results as cabong did in an all out race car
Hey Joker !! You are exactly correct. The wee Crosley racer weighed in at less than 1000 pounds. The mill was not wild, I simply paid lots of attention to the things that matter. Ignition, fuel, cooling, and gearing. The one thing that made this little racer so much fun was the transmission, and I recommend it for everyone running a 60. It is a '78 Mustang II Cobra 4 speed. It is NOT an overdrive, so you must rear gear accordingly. It's called an RAD-W1. Looks like a T5 and weighs in at a whopping 48 pounds. It had an Austen 3x2 manifold running on 2-81's. I miss racing that thing !!
There were a lot of V8-60's in midgets in the 40's and 50's (poor man's Offy). They did make a lot of speed equipment for them.
Expensive build. I don't recall who it was, but a fellow HAMBer had replaced the banger motor in his Model A with a V8-60, and he said that at the end of it all, the banger was probably faster. Too little torque out of the V8-60. They sure are cute though!
In other words, it's not a racing engine unless modifications are made to it. It's a 60hp engine and you won't turn 10's in the 1/4 mile but it'll still take you for a ride.
My Bantam goes great. 1,500lbs, 4:11s and some squeeze. But even off boost it'll accelerate from stoplights as well as the average new car.
Not to derail this thread, but that blower look interesting, looks like one of the Eaton superchargers, modified to accept downdraft carbs. Would like to hear more about that.
Sure is, here's my thread on it, been on there almost a decade. Too small for anything more that the 60 but there are larger ones. https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/small-displacement-blower.862569/
My avatar was a V8 60 with a 3:78 rear gear and wouldn't get out of it's own way until it got wound up. No low end torque, were fine in midgets and cracker box boats because they were running at high rpms. Was never happy with the way the car ran and sold it rather than putting a full sized flathead in it.
Cool, I missed that one. I've thought about those blowers before, but had not seen anyone mill one for dual carbs.
Forgot I had this shot of my last wee 60 before it went into the racer.... Of note.. the headers were from a midget back in the 40's. I bought them for 20 bucks off ebay, then realized why. They were too short from the first port to the third on each side. They were made to go up and over them frame rails, so I simply turned them upside down and switched from side to side. The "worm" rings are from when we lengthened them to fit, almost a quarter inch on each outside port... They were then cut and a 2" tube added to connect to the '36 drive shafts on the outside of the body. The little bugger bellered like a scalded ape... No one could believe all that racket was from a little 60 horse flattie. The headers weighed in at less than 2 pounds each, and the '36 drive shafts are very thin walled and so hard they would ring like a bell..... All combined to sound awesome....
The V8 60 can be made quite snappy if you have plenty of liquid assets. No single mod is going to make much difference, and lots of mods are never going to make you into the fastest kid in the valley. @blowby has had good luck with his blown V8 60, at least he is happy with it. That may be a fun thing to do with one. I always figured that one would make a good motorcycle motor. But we don't do motorcycles here and don't hang with people who do.
I'll never understand all the 60 hate. They are only expensive if you over pay for parts. We had no problem spinning many 7600 RPM on methanol with stock rods. Isky 620BS 16 mushroom cam, 100 over bore. Dimitri Elgin can grind a great cam for one. My brother has all my Dad's collection, Rich Willim. Unfortunately I don't think he'll ever do a damn thing with any of it. Enough stuff to build a half dozen hot 60s. If you want to build one see if you can dig up a copy of my Dad's book and have at it. People want to much for the book too. He sold them for $50 when he was alive. Now people want $300.
The old Simca, Brazilian Emi Sol v8 hemi is based on the v8 60 with Ardun heads. https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/unusual-engine-photos.1123661/page-32
Complete rebuild of Simca v8-60 https://www.techni-tacot.com/archives/v8-simca-aquillon-optimisation-moteur/
found this in Portuguese http://www.autoentusiastasclassic.com.br/2011/06/mais-hemi-ardun-ford-chrysler-e-emi-sul.html
Had a water pump go bad. Grabbed another off a spare engine but I can't get it to start the thread, something inside is catching just before the threads hit. Does this look right?
I'm just starting on a 26 27 roadster on an A frame. Got a V8 60 engine trans combo sitting there looking pretty. Since I am never in a hurry to get anywhere, the 60 is the absolute perfect choice for me. I'm not interested in running finned aluminum heads or dual carbs. It's going to run stock cast iron heads with a single 81/92 carb. Don't get me wrong, I like the goody parts. I just want it to run well and play with various exhaust configurations to get the best sound that I can. I plan on sneaking a Ruckstell two speed rear axle under it. Ruckstell axles are underdrive, not overdrive. Should help on getting her going and on long hills. And for cool points too. I plan on running with the Model A mechanical brakes. I forsee some cutting, welding and machining in my near future. Wish me luck.
Will the one off the good engine screw into the donor engine ? You might have tried that already.....had something simular on a 5/8 fuel line.....
Yes, welcome back. I'm assembling my V8 60 so I took a shot of my water pump. I rebuilt it, and without the O ring seals, it went in without the impeller contacting. My engine is a '38 or '39. Yours looks different. Could it be from a '40?
Thanks for the welcome back guys! Been away for heath reasons.. Hmm, your pump looks different than the used one I'm trying to fit, visible in my photo above. I don't know the years, and my old pump is gone, did the design change in '40?
I'm not the expert on these engines, but they did change the crankshaft diameter in 1940. There were some changes in the water inlet in maybe '38 and '39. My inlet threads in and I have a junk block that has provision for a three bolt flange inlet. Since the pump body seals in the front motor mount, that could be a design change for certain vehicles. The rebuild kit is very complete with bearing, shaft, impeller and o rings.