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Folks Of Interest DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH JOHN KOVAR AKA HOT ROD JOHN

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Del Clark, Feb 4, 2022.

  1. Del Clark
    Joined: Feb 21, 2007
    Posts: 636

    Del Clark
    Member
    from DeLand,FL

    Bought a set of 1932 Ford sedan Garnish moldings from him. I got them they were for a Mode A. I sent them back he refuses to give me my money back. Thousand dollars he stole from me.
     
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  2. alchemy
    Joined: Sep 27, 2002
    Posts: 22,765

    alchemy
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    Evidently you don’t do a search on peoples names before you do business. There are bad warnings about him right here on the HAMB beginning over a decade ago.
     
  3. lothiandon1940
    Joined: May 24, 2007
    Posts: 32,475

    lothiandon1940
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    ...Is he on here? You didn't really say if this is where you made contact with him. If so, be sure to report him to the moderators.
     
  4. Quick search here shows @Mac VP posted on July 25th 2019 that HotRod John Kovar had p***ed away.
     
  5. lothiandon1940
    Joined: May 24, 2007
    Posts: 32,475

    lothiandon1940
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    .....Wow, the plot thickens.
     
  6. Dan Hay
    Joined: Mar 16, 2007
    Posts: 6,463

    Dan Hay
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    Sorry that happened to you. People ****.
     
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  7. lippy
    Joined: Sep 27, 2006
    Posts: 6,856

    lippy
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    from Ks

    So you bought parts from a dead guy? Lippy
     
  8. Petejoe
    Joined: Nov 27, 2002
    Posts: 12,634

    Petejoe
    Member
    from Zoar, Ohio

    There are good reasons why Ryan advises everyone to use PayPal.
    Not 100% insurance but much better than other ways. I’d guess there are Two different Hotrod Johns.
    Really sorry you got screwed.
     
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  9. Lloyd's paint & glass
    Joined: Nov 16, 2019
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    Lloyd's paint & glass
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    Sounds to me like a hamb deal. You didn't advise otherwise. Have you notified @Ryan ? Where's the hot rod John located?
     
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  10. kabinenroller
    Joined: Jan 26, 2012
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    kabinenroller
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    Really dead or just hiding? If he is still around or if someone else is following in his foot steps find out his location and have “some friends” pay him a “visit”.
    The package you received must have originated from somewhere.
     
  11. 5window
    Joined: Jan 29, 2005
    Posts: 10,001

    5window
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    Garnish moldings are $1000.00?? I had no idea. I'm not sending anyone $1K unless it's my kids or someone I have thoroughly checked out first.
     
  12. mickeyc
    Joined: Jul 8, 2008
    Posts: 1,441

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    32 -3 window reproduction garnish moldings are 1800+ yes they are pricey.
     
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  13. 5window
    Joined: Jan 29, 2005
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    Another reason to like my '31, though I lost one in the rebuild. Finally found it on a shelf in my youngest daughter's room behind her Smurf collection. She'd moved out 10 years before. Still haven't worked that one out. :)
     
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  14. Joe Blow
    Joined: Oct 29, 2016
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    Ebay seller. If he went under, sounds like someone is carrying on the family tradition. Eight or more threads on here with warnings on this turd bird.
    This is his info from 2015: John Kovar, 7609 Carter Road, Sagamore Hills, Ohio, 44067 - Ph. 330-468-3027 hotrodjohn@windstream.net
    This is from a newspaper article from way back in 2010: The FBI and state police also searched a property at 7609 Carter Road in Sagamore Hills and found a dis***embled 2000 yellow Corvette stolen from Ganley Chevrolet in Aurora on Oct. 10, 2009. Parts from three other stolen Corvettes also were found.
     
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  15. chickenridgerods
    Joined: Jul 22, 2003
    Posts: 1,553

    chickenridgerods
    Member
    from DSM, IA

    His real name isn't even "John Kovar", but instead is John Kolvoord. Maybe he pronounces the latter like the former.

    The 7609 Carter Road property was sold by a person named the latter in 2018 according to the Summit County, Ohio ***essor, and a "John Kolvoord" owned the V-8 Shop which was registered at the same address with a long history of financial related suits.
     
  16. Joe Blow
    Joined: Oct 29, 2016
    Posts: 1,905

    Joe Blow
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    On Model A Trader:
    Screenshot 2022-02-04 1.56.jpg.09 PM.png
     
  17. hotrodA
    Joined: Sep 12, 2002
    Posts: 7,393

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    What?!! That person is still around?
    That would piss me off too! That guy’s rep is worse than ****.
    Do you mind sharing how he is listed on the auction site so some of us other 32 folks don’t get screwed by this guy? Did you report it to the site?
     
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  18. quickchangeV8
    Joined: Dec 7, 2010
    Posts: 594

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    John Kovar p***ed away in July of 2019. Now, how is it possible to purchase garnish moldings from someone that has been gone for almost 2 1/2 years? Your money is long gone and there isn't a hope in hell it will be returned.
     
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  19. Guy Patterson
    Joined: Nov 27, 2020
    Posts: 372

    Guy Patterson

    I don't know if it was the right person as when I checked the person I found was in Colorado on the date written here so the scammer could still be alive
     
  20. Beanscoot
    Joined: May 14, 2008
    Posts: 3,676

    Beanscoot
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    Cheesus, the guy's dead and still scamming people from the great beyond.
     
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  21. I say we hold a seance and call him back. Then kick his *** and send him back from whence he came! Just an idea...
     
  22. Slick111
    Joined: Oct 22, 2011
    Posts: 309

    Slick111
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    Sounds like Ole John Kovar has produced offspring carrying on the tradition
     
  23. Fortunateson
    Joined: Apr 30, 2012
    Posts: 5,728

    Fortunateson
    Member

    Thanks for bringing this to the HAMBs attention, a valuable service. There should be a “bulletin board” listing all the aholes that we should not even contemplate doing business with!
     
  24. choptop40
    Joined: Dec 23, 2009
    Posts: 5,743

    choptop40
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    scammed by a kindergartner i say...only deal with hambers who have many many unrelated to selling posts...and / or have been a member for a while...the scam list is just more work for the boss.....buyer beware...
     
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  25. hotrodA
    Joined: Sep 12, 2002
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    hotrodA
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    HA! Getting screwed by this guy (or his namesake) is “traditional”.
     
  26. MMM1693
    Joined: Feb 8, 2009
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    My money is on a phony death.
     
  27. mad mikey
    Joined: Dec 22, 2013
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    mad mikey
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    It isn't bad enough the world seems to be over populated with scammers,:mad: now there may be a zombie scammer.:eek:
     
  28. Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Beetlejuice!!!
     
  29. Hillbilly Werewolf
    Joined: Dec 13, 2007
    Posts: 566

    Hillbilly Werewolf
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