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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 55blacktie, Feb 12, 2022.

  1. 55blacktie
    Joined: Aug 21, 2020
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    55blacktie

    Has anyone recently purchased a Howard's cam, particularly a mechanical flat-tappet? Are you satisfied with quality, performance, and customer service?
     
  2. jimmy six
    Joined: Mar 21, 2006
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    jimmy six
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    When Donnie Johansson was still doing them yes. Every Bonneville record I’ve ever set was using one of his steel flat tappet. My sons street GMC has one of his regrinds on an iron stock.
    I don’t know is doing them today.
     
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  3. connielu
    Joined: Apr 21, 2019
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    connielu
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    1. A-D Truckers

    I'm happy with mine so far. Flat tappet small block Chevy # 110951-08
     
  4. Mike VV
    Joined: Sep 28, 2010
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    Mike VV
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    from SoCal

    Completely different organization !
    When Howards closed up, Don got almost ALL of the grinding equipment, the lobe masters. He had it set up at the Chino Airport for many years before his death.
    And yes, he was still using it to grind cams on. I had him grind a BUNCH (23) of Studebaker roller cams for me.

    And no, I do not know anything about the current Howards cams, other than they've stayed in business for more than a few years, so their stuff can't be too bad..!

    Mike
     
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  5. jimmy six
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    Yes I knew when Donny (cams) and Bobby (rods) sold the name. I went to both Howard’s and his wife funeral in Perris. I bought my first cam from the oldest son Jerry at the old shop on Main. My son worked for Donny grinding cams in Lon Beach. Mostly prep but some finish work too.
     
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  6. lumpy 63
    Joined: Aug 2, 2010
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    lumpy 63
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    I haven't had any problems with their stuff. Used three in the last two years.
     
  7. Anderson
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    Hope they’re good, watching this thread. Can’t get an Isky to save my life so been looking elsewhere.
     
  8. Mike VV
    Joined: Sep 28, 2010
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    Mike VV
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    from SoCal

    I was told about Dons funeral, I'm only going to...one !
    Yeah, I did also hit the original shop on Main off (parallel to) the Harbor Freeway back, way...back ! I sat with Jerry for some time while we talked about my cars engine. He pulled head flow charts, cam spec. charts, lotsa time on his calculator.

    I was happy with the outcome.

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    Mike


     
  9. 55blacktie
    Joined: Aug 21, 2020
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    55blacktie

    Best answer so far, thanks.
     
  10. Stan Back
    Joined: Mar 9, 2007
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    Stan Back
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    from California

    Donnie was working out of Chet Herbert's shop by Disneyland and reground a Chrysler hemi cam for my Plymouth about 15-20 years ago.

    (As best I can remember, which ain't too good.)
     
  11. cooke
    Joined: Jan 13, 2011
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    I hope so- we're building a Dart SHP 400 SBC and will be using the Howard's +.300 longer roller lifters.
     
  12. 55blacktie
    Joined: Aug 21, 2020
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    55blacktie

    Y-block mushroom lifters go in from the bottom. Replacing the cam/lifters is quite a chore; that's why it's important to get it right the first time.
     
  13. vtx1800
    Joined: Oct 4, 2009
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    I purchased two cams from them in the last 8 years, a roller and a flat tappet (about three years ago), I've been happy with both of them, their tech guy is pretty decent too.
     
  14. cabong
    Joined: Nov 29, 2005
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    Some years back, 10 or 12, I was restoring a Chev powered Austen Healy. A good friend, now gone, had picked up a factory mule "265" which had never been installed in a car. No freeze plugs, just water fittings, and had FI style pistons. It needed a cam, so Richard told me that Donnie owed him a favor. A month later, I went to Gen Avon to pick up the new camshaft. Turns out Howard had ground the DZ cams for Chevrolet, and Donnie still had the profiles and 2 blanks. Richard got them both. That little 265 came alive, and would outrun anything on the straights at the vintage races. When Richard passed, I asked the family about the other cam. It was in an unmarked tube, with no markings on the cam, so it got tossed in the scrap heap. Sad.....
     
  15. KevKo
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    from Motown

    I've had bad luck with cams lately. I'm not going to give Comp any more of my money. So I'm going to try a Howard's roller. Made in Wisconsin. I emailed to ask for some help and Luke was quick and very helpful. I was pleased so ordered from Summit, won't have the cam until April. That's just the way things are today.
     
  16. saltflats
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  17. 55blacktie
    Joined: Aug 21, 2020
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    55blacktie

    Ouch! Were the lifters made by Howard's, or did they just put their name on them? It's not unusual for cams and lifters to be made by different manufacturers.
     
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  19. Tickety Boo
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    Tickety Boo
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    from Wisconsin

    Theres got to be a story about this Salty :oops: looks like rpm exceeded the valve spring pressure or broken valve spring or other big catastrohe that this was a part of, :confused:
    Time to fess up :D
     
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  20. Tickety Boo
    Joined: Feb 2, 2015
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    from Wisconsin

    If you know the part number of the Howard cam you might want to try calling Compitition Products in Oshkosh Wisconsin at 800-233-0119 , they handle all of Howards products and should have it in stock ;)
     
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  21. 55blacktie
    Joined: Aug 21, 2020
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    55blacktie

    Although I don't have the knowledge to say anything good/bad about Howards cams, I've decided to go ahead and use my Schneider cam. It has six degrees less duration @ .050 and .007 less lobe lift, but it has the same advertised rpm range and same LSA.
     
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  22. Russco
    Joined: Nov 27, 2005
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    from Central IL

    You’re not out much on the Isky probably. The last one I got was ground wrong, it was not even close to spec it was supposed to be and they said I was SOL because that were out of 8BAblanks. I installed a nice Howards Hyd roller in an SBC for a buddy not long ago that ran great… a little too great even.
    I warned him the stock 400 rods would not live much above 5300 for long periods.I was correct but the cam and lifters were quality and speck’s out to the card I installed it on a 104 intake center.
     
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  23. big john d
    Joined: Nov 24, 2011
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    big john d
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    from ma

    have used howards cams in my three last builds and have had great results had one comp lifter had the roller axle get sloppy and it put minor damage one the lobe nose sent it to comp products and they polished it and it has been fine great people to work with at competition products
     
  24. 5window
    Joined: Jan 29, 2005
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    Interesting, but GM doesn't recommend using it as an oil additive. From their label:
    Have times changed-or the product changed?
    • Specifically formulated
    • Provides outstanding protection
    • Formulated for automotive use
    • Only use for the specific purposes listed on the product label
    • Not recommended for this product to be used as an additive to engine oil

     
  25. Fordors
    Joined: Sep 22, 2016
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    That may be lawyer speak to cover their ass because of the zinc content.
     
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