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Hot Rods Todays messed up takes on how hot rods were in the 1950s n 60s

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by dana barlow, Feb 28, 2022.

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  1. adam401
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    Its important to keep the record straight and I like hearing it straight from the guys that were there.

    I was born in 77 so I wasnt there. I build with early parts but ive said it before on this board. My cars are always fake. Bullshit traditional cars. Theres never a part newer than 1953 on any car I touch but theyre always built with a touch of modern look. Chopped a little too much, too antique looking parts sometimes, stuff like that.

    As far as some of the comments about why do people like flatheads just a few thoughts. They made a ton of speed equipment for them which is fun to hunt down and get working. Theres tons of events where you can race them. With everyone running the same base engine its almost like spec racing. It keeps things competitive. I have no dilusions that any early hot rod is gonna be the fastest thing around so I just build what I have fun with.
     
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  2. Stogy
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    @SuperFleye's Kustomrama, AHRF, @Rikster's Custom Car Chronicle... @pgan's site, Canadian Rodder, there are others that I often refer to as Sidekicks to the Hamb and many times use them as reference in discussion here...I thank them all for their contributions every time I can...
     
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  3. CAHotRodBoy
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    I'm "only" 65 so I'm more of a late '60s to early '70s guy but here is my opinion. The HAMB is a traditional site and is pretty clear on what is allowed. Those bitching about "old guys" need to remember that those old guys were the ones that were around during the period that this site is dedicated to.

    I think everyone should build what ever they want in what ever style they want (except for clown shoe wheels and rubber band tires. those should be illegal! :eek::D ) but should also know what is real traditional versus what is trendy. The OP here stated what was done back during the HAMB period. If you don't like what he had to say or bitch about old guys then maybe you should go to a different website.
     
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  4. Bandit Billy
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    Last time I had the roadster out last fall I rolled up to a light on a ZL-1 Camaro, 2020 or close (they all look the same). 650 HP of sheer terror and there was no way I was going to race him.

    Yeah right. His cute seat cover hanging out the window hollering at me was all I needed for encouragement. I heard the flatty hit the 5500 rev limiter in 1st and 2nd and I was flying in 3rd but by that point the Camaro, so far ahead I couldn't make out the plate numbers...or tail lights, was on the breaks hard! Yeah, I didn't have a chance in hell, but I still took one. Damn she was cute!
     
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  5. fastcar1953
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    I respect the "old guys". I just hate narrow minded people.
     
  6. Harv
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    Thank you sir. With covid and all the other dramas I haven't had a laugh like that in weeks. Did me good.

    Cheers,
    Harv
     
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  7. I happen to LIKE girls with short skirts and tank tops! (well, except for the ones at the extreme ends of the height/weight spectrum)
     
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  8. Stogy
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    Hear them out, do the research...many of their opinions are again as Traditional as the age of the Big Picture...

    Doesn't mean you can't create an inspired Hotrod that makes the cut as there is an almost infinite opportunity if you want to step back in time...pick a period research it and enjoy feeling and experiences the rewards...
     
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  9. denis4x4
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    Quick comment on paint jobs...there were Earl Schieb. ((sp?) shops that would let you prep your car and schedule you as the last job so your car would be in the booth overnight........$19.95 in 1957
     
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  10. 41 GMC K-18
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    This has been a most interesting thread.
    I will be 69 next month.
    Old stuff, is still cool stuff, even if a Ford 8-N tractor is Hot Rodded, it gets a nod, from those that can dig it. Regardless of how impractical, it may seem at the time.

    hot rod tractor.jpg
     
  11. manyolcars
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    Most 8Ns are actually 2Ns and 9Ns
     
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  12. Stogy
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    It still doesn't highlight the fact that one may choose to live their life around their inspired ride as if it was in a transition that they appreciate for what it was at that moment...

    They may drive it that way for the entire time they own it because they appreciate it in that undone state...this is why some capsules found represent a state of where time stopped as life got in the way...

    The patina thing is many times an unsuccessful attempt of capturing that moment in between beginning and end...
     
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  13. Stogy
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    Wow that's the biggest dang Cragar mag I've ever saw...:eek:
     
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  14. Rickybop
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    Dana, I tend to agree with you on every point you made.
    I want to say...
    I sense from you a real concern that all this knowledge will be lost. But I don't think you need to worry too much. Whether the particulars ever being discussed are about the nuts and bolts of things or about all that's happened and all the great people who've been involved over the decades, I've always been totally blown away by the amount of information that is stored in some guys' heads! The numbers will surely lessen over time, but I think there'll always be exceptional people such as that to help keep the old information straight. And besides, luckily, most of the information has been saved. And it can't be denied... as long as it's around, the HAMB will be a big part of that in times to come. Just as it is now, if some go astray, there'll be others who know and can "gently" correct them. LOL
    So we've done good.
    We all know that YOU'VE certainly done your part. Thanks for making sure that I don't put teeny tiny wheels and tires on the front of my hot rod.
    :D
    pssst... tell you a secret...
    I knew that anyway.
     
  15. fastcar1953
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    I just get tired of people deleting content that is relevant to hot rodding.
    By doing so just narrows the group of people looking and learning.
    It will stop soon enough.
    People have away of getting rid of the good sites and turning them into something no one wants to go to.
    This place is turning into Facebook for "old guys" with their old outdated ways of thinking.
    BRING BACK THE TECH SO WE ALL CAN LEARN TO DO IT RIGHT IN THE OLD FASHIONED WAYS.
     
  16. Stogy
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    1965 is where this site ends...I won't try to change it ever...because I've chose to follow what was before my time...your focus is in fact misguided...the site is already add nauseam been described proudly as narrow in focus...

    I could care less about the movement after 65 unless it was inspired to 1965 and earlier...which would in fact mean someone chose what the Hamb represents now, then...

    I research alot here regarding Threads I follow...very seldom do I ever have content deleted and feel I will die just skimming the surface of the greatness that was before me...

    I don't follow the Jone's with my love of Hotrod/Custom and everyone chose their interests regarding how they approached it...I still keep an open mind to it all and appreciate the points of view shared...

    That search feature is Gold...type in tech...check those birthdays out many incredibly cool members have faded away leaving incredible tidbits of valid history that is thankfully archived to be appreciated...I wished I could have met many of them...

    Tech is still here in a huge way...just follow some of these incredible talents here and just ask them to further explain what you find interesting that they've done...
     
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  17. fastcar1953
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    And this is why it will be gone. People need to keep up with all the history of hot rodding.
     
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  18. Stogy
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    It won't be gone until the membership leaves and to me this year has got off to an incredible start...

    Those that choose to appreciate this place are its future...I seriously don't feel anything has changed...

    Thank you all Hoodlums...you are the Hamb...

    As they say if this place doesn't fulfill what you desire perhaps your focus isn't prior to 1965 and older...that's not a crime just your interests lie elsewhere...
     
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  19. hotrodjack33
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    Hell, you ain't traditional unless you can chop a top with hacksaw blades, torches and coat hangers.;)
     
  20. A 2 B
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    I didn't start driving until 1965 but I had already accumulated a 2 foot stack of hotrod magazines. They featured high dollar (for me) dream builds and for the most part cars that I never thought I would own. Just to say, me and my buddies were an informed car savvy bunch but what we drove were a far cry from resembling what we drooled over. It just became easier and more in vogue to be assimilated into the muscle car era. I have spent most of my life straddling a number of different automotive disciplines but truly do have a love for the past and history in general.
    In my 70s now, retired and find myself gravitating toward the intended content found on this site. Guess I miss those old magazines and still have dreams.
     
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  21. Dick Stevens
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    Problem is, you have find some of those traditional coat hangers, you know, made before 1965, as the new ones are made of some real crappy metal that doesn't weld worth a shit! :p:D:rolleyes:
     

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    ^^^^At least his pants are pulled up. An improvement over the current generation.
     
  24. I say we form some sort of a sect.

    Call ourselves "HAMBish".

    You know, like the Amish but instead of the 19th century, the technology stops at 1965. :p:D:D

    I can not wait to see a black '32 Ford roadster with an orange triangle on the back. :D:D:D

    Havin' garage raising parties.

    Funny hats and beards... wait... thats already a thing here. :p

    It's gonna be great.
     
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  25. Bandit Billy
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    Be careful out there amongst them English!
     
  26. Stogy
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    1965 let alone 1947 was anything but slow...no triangles required...Hambers works for me...research here will solidify that...
     
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    20220301_011957.jpg

    :rolleyes:...Dick, what is it you are sharing with us? Period correct at nighttime?...:D

     
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    Add cowboy boots and I'm all in!! Damn I'm getting old
     
  29. Mr48chev
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    Dana Barlow knows, I'll have to say that. His thoughts are spot on with what I have thought for years.
    Throw in all of those "black " satin finished cars in your grandparents old black and white photo albums and those little magazines weren't black.

    I've referred to those moon tanks on street rods that usually aren't even hooked to anything as Me Too tanks for years because I'd say half the guys with one stuck on his car thought it was a requirement to be one of the cool guys. Most of them are clueless to the fact that the majority of the cars that had them sticking out there all the time had them filled with the "special racing gas" for when you had to switch the valves to take on a challenge.
     
  30. Stogy
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    While I appreciate everyone's sharing what they're up to I find a fair number miss or don't understand the actual Forums where they share the Hotrods they build and I for one truly understand this pretty straightforward guideline...that said I do on occasion PM or in a non confrontational way suggest they PM a mod to port it accordingly...and I thank the Hamb for giving us a place to share stuff that misses the mark for whatever reason...for those that aren't aware it is the Hokey Ass Forum...disc brakes, big headlights, radials, post 65 engines dressed as older, mixed builds that truly didn't follow what evolutions path took...but some try to fight a reality that never was and that is where many meet with a wall...that's their call to make...

    I know it when I see it generally and you can stand up but the Boss and the mods control the content...thankfully...;)

    I don't think Dana has anything to worry about here...and he certainly has a hands on viewpoint from his life around Hotrod/Custom before and after I was born...the life around Hotrod I'm living was recently described in a Thread as a pose and lots of us here are living it in inspiration as well...I'm fortunate to even get a kick at it, I'll take it for what it is...
     
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