So why a "lock?" Was it really a theft deterrent of some type to keep someone from putting the Shifter In Gear? When did Hurst make this part? Thank you for the help... 1Nimrod
From the packaging, I would say that shifter lock was made in the ‘70’s. I’ve never seen that goodie before ! I doubt it was ever a big seller.
Thank you for the reading material. The Hurst Company seemed to come up with many off the wall products some really good stuff but some I think just to get the hard-earned money from the non-racing crowd maybe? Thank you for your help again... 1Nimrod
There was two on the bay the other day. I myself can't see buying something unless you can actually use it "put it to work" sort of like that Big Red Ugly steering wheel lock. Somebody can always get around theft device's it may slow them down abit but... Thank you for your help as well. 1Nimrod
I know this has been mentioned here but thought this story might enlighten those that are interested. From the "I didn't know that" file (I knew that). Hurst Jaws Of Life rescue tool. Saved from the Jaws of Death by the Jaws of Life: a love of telling stories + a penchant for preserving history + social media + a father’s legacy = a quite unexpected journey It was Dick’s reputation as an innovator and expert in fire protection and safety rescue within the motor sports industry that brought him to the attention of George Hurst. Their paths would cross often on tracks across the country as George had made his name in the race world with his famous Hurst shifter. George had a new invention he needed help with, a 350+ lb behemoth “tool” that would enable race car drivers to be cut out of wreckage after a crash. The tool, which was pulled around on the back of a pickup truck and first demonstrated at Daytona Motor Speedway, was too heavy and too unwieldy to be effective. Dick started to work with George, offering him advice on how this tool needed to be reengineered to be of real service on a racetrack, where speed was everything. There was something more Dick understood about George’s invention though…it may have been born on the racetrack, but it had applications that reached much further than anything George had in mind. As Supervisor of the Fire Protection and Safety Department of TRW—his official day job at the time—Dick had been working in TRW’s Space Systems Group, helping to develop fire suppression systems for NASA rockets. But it was the conversations he started having with the product managers in the Performance Parts division that had laid the ground-work for the TRW Safety Caravan, with the realization by all involved that bigger engines and more sophisticated parts were leading to faster and faster cars on the racetrack (and on the roads.) Dick knew that any technology developed in the Space Technology or Performance Parts divisions had applications elsewhere. Likewise, George Hurst’s extrication tool would be important beyond the racetrack. George tried to entice Dick into moving east to Hurst headquarters in Warminster, PA to help with this process, but he was busy with his traveling TRW Safety Caravan, and a company he’d purchased called Filler Safety Equipment, where he was developing special driver suits (Shadow Formula I Team 1975-76), as well as fire extinguisher systems for cars used in Lemans, Grand National Stock Cars, and Funny Cars in drag racing.................... Full story in link below. Here: https://mickeyherr.com/2014/03/23/s...-a-fathers-legacy-a-quite-unexpected-journey/
Elco. Are those interior pics of your personal vehicle? What type of vehicle? Man what a sweet setup, The Dash Gauges & Floor Concl is beyond "COOL" it reminds me of an Airplane Cockpit. Help again please... I just picked up another 60's? 70's? Hurst Stick with a Hurst aluminum T-Handle (Maybe Mopar Stick?) It has a very strange dark gray aluminum T-Handle not sure what to make of it's color? Is it a different type of aluminum? Politely asking for more information on this Hurst Stick and the T-Handle. If y'all can help me out again I'd really appreciate it, sorry for not having better pictures right now. All these Cool Vintage Husrt Shifter, Hurst Stick's and all Hurst Part's should be recorded in "One Big Complete Hurst History Book" from A-Z with Mr.Hurst first Year to the year of Mr.Hurst passing. I'd buy one right quick. Thank You all again... 1Nimrod (Dustin)
Yes... If that History Book of HURST is Complete with Hurst from the beginning of Mr.Hurst and The Hurst Company to end of the original Mr.Hurst his life and Hurst Company with everything Mr.Hurst his friends and his crew designed created and built that's what I'd be very interested in buying and reading. Thank You so much my friend... 1Nimrod
Looks like a bolt on stick made with height and offset. Speedway sells 'em for around $200 I think the smaller letters are a later stick. T handles were made of Aluminum alloy, in HS shop I tapped one to try as a pistol grip. All was cool until I heated it to try melting lead into the original hole. It wrinkled and slumped like a flaccid weenie. Instructor said good Al would have had a much higher melting point. hand dirt and corrosion make 'em look like that. A magnesium one popped up once, bet it weighs next to zilch!
I finally found a # on the Hurst Stick with the T-Handle. #4084 Some info says some early 63-66 floor shifter with console models Mopar B-Body. Also used as a floor council Stick in 66-70 Mopar Hurst Comp Plus 4 speed with a Pistol Grip in a B-Body. I think the Factory console models have somewhat of a different shape, this one is maybe 15" tall with 3.90" off set to the side with a 5.5" reach measurement to fit under and to the right side and to the front of the Factory floor model council? Numbers are great when you can find them on the Hurst Sticks. I was going to cut this #4084 Stick up to help extend my Hurst Auto Stick 1 Shifter another 4"-6" taller to make it work better in my 63 C10 Pickup with a bench seat. But knowing that this Hurst #4084 Stick "maybe" a Mopar Factory Hurst Stick I'd rather save it for someone looking for this special Stick bcuz only way gettin one now is a repop made across the pond and these originals are getting harder to come by now. (The real original not HAMB friendly Hurst Pistol Grip Stick looked similar to the repop below, It's very different than the #4084 Hurst Stick) Thank you for your help if you or anyone else finds out more please let me know. Thank You... 1Nimrod (Dustin)
That's the handle I used for my roadster, I had to reduce the offset about one inch to get the knob at a comfortable position.
It's a great Stick (the Mopar stick) and it would actually help my Hurst Auto Stick 1 work better by moving it over to the right more away from my right knee when driving, but my Hurst Auto Stick 1 is welded on and I really don't want to cut the stick and then drill two holes on the lower part of my original Auto Stick 1 stick. The Mopar Hurst Stick would make it easier and the location of the stick would be more comfortable for me. Man what a hard decision to make I'ys got to think about this really hard... My head hurts lol... All help is very much appreciated... 1Nimrod (Dustin)
Dustin It's just a piece of steel, cut it, move on, life's too short to stress over it, besides, you gotta be comfortable or what's the point. The day we die it really won't matter anyway will it!
Plus I really don't want to spend more money on another stick. If I can get someone to trade Hurst Stick for Hurst Stick that I can make work better for my 63 C10 bench seat I would do that, I don't want to cut up a nice Mopar Hurst Stick that someone else may be needing for a righteous build, that's why I was thinking out loud. But your right our time on this Earth is way to Short, I should make do with what I have and not worry about who may need that Mopar Hurst Stick in the future. Thank you for the push my friend. 1Nimrod (Dustin)
Hello, long time off thread, as you know I still do some car shows with my Hurst display. Anyway, recently I talked to one of my old Hurst employees. We at Hurst started with motor mounts, before shifters. With the shifters and some of other projects we used a donor car to assemble a prototype installation kit. The person I recently met, has a 1961 Ford falcon futura, that we installed a 283 sbc, for motor mount kits, later a turbo 400 was installed, w / 14" wheels. This was a project from the mid 1960's. It was stored away all these years. Enclosed 2001 pic attached.
Dustin- FYI, at Hurst we engineered the Pistol grip stick / handle assy. The original concept of the pistol grip handle came from Chrysler. we incorporated the grip into the top of the stick, and then manufactured all of the grip parts locally. As many don't know the steel sandwich piece between the plastic grip parts was 5/16" thick, all of our chrome sticks were 3/8" thick. The weld was hidden under the small chrome piece. We made, at least three versions, all were bayonet style (OEM). Pictured is one of orig, cuda. challenger assys. In my collection.
My dad was Bill Campbell. Don Glover, who posts frequently, was with dad at his last car show and attended his memorial. Dad was a very black-and-white guy. He operated in facts. He easily listed, without emotional attachment, the assets and liabilities of working with George for 13 years. He appreciated George’s strengths and was frustrated by the challenges. Dad insisted on integrity in all matters. My dad told me the story of his early days with George. The first guy who worked with George was Jim Rahm, who is now 90 years old and sharp of memory. George was intuitive, inventive, had a creative mind always looking for ideas, and was a natural showman. My dad called him a “P.T.Barnum.” That showmanship played a major role in the company’s success. My dad, a mechanical engineer, started working for George in 1956 part-time designing dies for engine conversion parts to earn a bit of extra money. Dad’s original goal of earning a bit more money really didn’t work out because George wasn’t making enough to pay anyone… But dad enjoyed the challenge. After two years, their insurance agent talked them into incorporating in May of 1958. In 1961 George offered $1,000 to the guy who could design a better 4-speed in-line shifter than they were using in Detroit. Bob Kenny came up with the idea, and eventually George gave him the $1,000. Today Bob is also 90 years old and very sharp. A long time engineer at Hurst, Bill Widdemer, once told me that George would sketch out the next idea he wanted to build, and my dad would figure out how to do it. While George was promoting, dad kept the entire operation running smoothly. Hurst-Campbell would have never succeeded as it did without the strengths of both men. I must clarify this. The original idea for the Jaws was not George’s and had nothing to do with the race car industry. Dad read an article in the Philadelphia Bulletin about a dump truck driver who was caught in his cab in an accident at a train crossing, and bled to death five minutes before they got him extricated. Dad thought, “This guy isn’t going home to his wife and kids.” That got him thinking, and he came up with the initial idea for a cutting tool that could not produce sparks. When he shared the idea with George over a hamburger, George added in the spreading tool. George insisted on the tool running off a power steering pump. Dad said it had to run off a separate generator. There was some development to the tool over the next ten years, but it never really got off the ground successfully until after dad left Hurst (at George’s invitation) in 1969 and George put the Jaws into high gear, powering them yes, by a generator. George may take all the credit for the Jaws, but our family is so proud to know that it was our dad’s initial concept. Dad was the quiet engineer who kept production running at home. I'm glad to answer questions about my dad and the early history as long as you aren't too technical! My great-grandfather, grandfather, dad, husband and son were/are all engineers, but I'm not!
Welcome to the HAMB Tomi, we are all ears. I bought my first Hurst shifter (used) at 15 for my 61 Impala in 1969, have bought many new ones over the years.
Found these about ten years ago on Craigslist. Not any good for much anymore as they are old and dry rotted but they look cool on my FED sitting still. Too cool to pass up for $100 on a set of black steelies. -Luke
You are correct, they were not a Hurst/Campbell product. They were produced by the late Ron Hurst first in Southern California and later on in Idaho. One of my Buddys dated Rons Grandaughter for a while and they visited him in Idaho. He sold the Hurst tire company to some guys in Oregon years ago but they have since closed the business and gone off radar.
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