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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by armymike, Mar 28, 2022.

  1. Jones St.
    Joined: Feb 8, 2020
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    Jones St.

    Yes, you found the 'Gate keepers ' of the board. And the helpful ones (keepers) will share information & venders that can assist you properly.
     
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  2. Glad you got back here, Mike.
    There are some helpful comments here along with some non constructive stuff.
    Sounds like you are getting the advice you need from Sid's.
     
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  3. stinson
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    Someone a few pages back mentioned a caster wheel hanging down just below the axle, is that really a terrible idea? I suggested a skid plate at a 45 deg angle in front of the ubolts, so it would skid more smoothly and not dig into the road. Maybe a little less sketchy than it is now? Sure would hate to see that truck lose its look the stance makes it.
     
  4. Glad to hear from ya Mike ,presently doing a 34 chev truck drop axle , 3-4 inches is the most drop I can do due to the parallel leafs , use a 47- 52 axle. The heavier spindles will allow you to use the bendix style brakes or the after market disk set up , also the five bolt car hubs .
     
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  5. Blues4U
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    @armymike I'm in the same town as you. From the pic you posted above it looks like you may be in the downtown area? I'm over by CSUF. I'll help you with this if you want someone local to give you a hand. Contact me by pm.
     
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  6. luckylou
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    Sid does awesome work...he dropped a axle in my 31 chev coupe awhile back no issues and he is very helpful..ypu will be in the right hands for sure
     
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  7. armymike
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    That is very nice of you. I live be the Fullerton Airport. I could use help with Sid's dimensions he's requesting.
     
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  8. mlagusis
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    What size wheels are you running here? They look different than the first post.
     
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  9. mlagusis
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  10. Budget36
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    I think if you measure from the outside of one spring to the inside of the other spring, this will give you the center to center pad mount that Sid needs to figure out what axle you have/need.
     
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  11. armymike
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    14s front with 695-14 bias ply which I gained turning radius because the bias plys are narrow than the previous radials. Rears AR L78-15s. When I bought tires a couple weeks ago, was going to buy 15s but wouldn't have made a difference. Even 16s wouldn't fix the scrubline problem because the tire is fairly close to the fender inside.
     
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  12. twenty8
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    Maintaining the ability to steer the car if a tire blows is what scrub line is all about.
    I think you are missing the point........o_O
     
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  13. But riding a skateboard at 75 down the freeway is fun!
     
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  14. twenty8
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    YEEHAA........but even a skateboard has some steering.
    The wild ride is exhilarating. The sudden stop at the end.... not so much.
     
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  15. Stogy
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    Glad you chimed back in @armymike...great to see a few more pics and it really is a sharp looking Truck...perhaps a little less drop and a slightly taller tire...whatever you and the axle shop come up with please share the details...many would enjoy the tweeks involved...what's under the hood?

    Mmmmm...bias plys...good on you...;)
     
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  16. 34 5W Paul
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    Please be sure and take Blues4U up on his generous offer of assistance. He is one smart mofo.
     
  17. armymike
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  18. armymike
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    A 1986 Buick V6 automatic transmission
     

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  19. Stogy
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    Ok I won't ask about that anymore...;)...it's off topic here but don't talk about it or post pics and your good...mind you you'll be better off at the pumps...
     
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  20. Budget36
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    Wouldn’t be too bad of a looking engine if a smaller distributor/cap was available for it.
     
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  21. Stogy
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    Yes...you can do lots to make an engine appear older but some things are just to outside the box...for here...glad he has a hood...it should for that reason be in the Hokey forum...

    Many post in the wrong forum...easy mistake to make...I am Hokey Ass with the Ole Hotrod for certain details I don't mention...it's just the way it is and I feel no lesser to be in the Forum that makes the most sense...easy switch for the mods...and again it's not to point fingers or alarm its just a matter of principal...I do like this Truck...
     
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  22. SS327
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    That engine should not be off topic considering Buick and even American Motors has been using that engine since about 1962. That’s how old the odd fire v6 Buick is.
    It’s always the sudden stop at the end that gets you! :confused:
     
  23. Stogy
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    I didn't know that...so are you saying this block shares a visual likeness much like the Chev V8s to their vintage counterparts...regardless it belongs in the Hokey Forum as it's inspired...to it's vintage counterpart...

    Can you run a vintage distributor in that engine to lose that modern thing?
     
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  24. SS327
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    Boy your asking me to remember almost 40 years back when I worked for Buick. If that truly is an 86 engine it would have had an ot ignition in it. The odd fire and even fire engine look pretty much the same. Odd fire engines from 62-77 distributors interchange. Even fire is different 78-85 after 85 it was all crank sensors and coil packs. Difference between odd fire and even fire: crank, camshaft, valve covers and firing order. There may be more but can’t remember, I tried my best to forget those things but still have nightmares. In 1988 when they redesigned it again it went from my most hated to most loved engine. A 45-65 thousand mile motor to a 200,000 mi engine. Would go even more if at 180,000 mi you just replaced the timing chain. That’s when the plastic started falling off the cam gear.
     
  25. Stogy
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    It truly is interesting because the rules are in essence if the vintage engine carries on past 65 and it remains the same basic block if the HEI and any other obvious new stuff was swapped out and made to look as a 62-5 engine it passes as an inspired engine as does my Chev 327...
     
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  26. stinson
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    I was just thinking if you could reduce the friction of it skidding on the flat tire side the other tire would have a better chance at steering. If we're worried about both tires going flat then sure no control at all.
     
  27. Dick Stevens
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    You definitely don't want anything skidding as that would make steering with one tire still up not likely to work well!
     
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  28. twenty8
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    The whole idea of 'scrub line' is that if you blow a tire, or even if the tire comes completely off the rim, you would still have both wheels contacting the road before anything else. This will give you the best chance of still being able to steer the vehicle to a certain degree. If the axle (or any other part of the undercarriage) hits the road surface, and keeps one or both wheels in the air, your chances of pointing it anywhere sensible are going to be slim. Think hockey puck, at speed .....:eek:
     
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  29. mlagusis
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    @armymike

    I am building a 31 Chevy 2 Door Sedan and am planning to add a dropped axle. Can you measure from the center of spindle to bottom of axle? If it works with the wheels I'm running (16") and you are interested in selling the axle, I would be interested in taking it off your hands.

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  30. armymike
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