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Technical Hurst CR-202 engine mounts (Chrysler Hemi)

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by tubman, May 16, 2022.

  1. tubman
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    Anyone out there have a set of these or equivalent? I want to make a set for myself (I have a Plasma Cutter, a Grinder, a Welder, and various chunks of steel plate). I could guess, but if anyone out there has some they can use to measure the critical dimensions (or maybe even trace around the major components), I would appreciate it and maybe even supply a modest stipend.
     
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  3. bchctybob
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    You mean like these?
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  4. tubman
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    Yep. That's just what I need. I have the engine, so this should give me most of the information I need. Thank you very much.

    One last thing : it looks like the main horizontal plates are 1/4", while the rest are 1/8". Can you verify that?
     
  5. bchctybob
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    1/4' base and 3/16" for the rest. I'll make you some patterns and good pictures.
    I'd sell you the mounts but I think I've decided to replace the 425 Nailhead in my '33 pickup with this beast.
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    Here’s some photos to get you started. I’m posting them here instead of PM in case others need to see them.
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  7. bchctybob
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    And here’s the material cut sizes.
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  8. tubman
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    WOW! That's all I could ask for and more!:cool: The only thing I will do differently is not drill the holes for the front mounts until I drop the completed assembly on the frame. I think a single properly located hole would be better than the long slots. I never liked those and this is a way to do away with them.

    Thanks again. I owe you big time!:)

    Great lookin' engine! Mine is just a 331 out of a dump truck. It had just been overhauled and the transmission went out, so the owners decided to give up on it. I took this with a grain of salt until I mounted it on my test stand. I started gaining some confidence when the oil I drained out of it looked as good as the oil I put in. It started right up and ran cool and had good oil pressure. I eventually ran it 20 minutes with no problems whatsoever. I have the wet 4 BBL manifold from the '54 New Yorker engine in my dirt modified (avatar) to start with, anyway.
     
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  9. bchctybob
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    I can make patterns for the individual pieces and send them to you if that’ll help.
    True story, I’ve had those mounts since I was about 16 years old. I sold my 354 Hemi to my neighbor Mike and we put it in his ‘55 Chevy, at first with the 3 spd/OD. He killed that trans immediately. We installed a junk yard cast iron TorqueFlight with washers in the pressure regulator and that survived Mike’s lead foot. I took the mounts and the trans adapter when he later changed to a 327/4 spd combo.
     
  10. tubman
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    It sure would. However I feel I should do something for you. Have any need for a "Tubman" condenser? Or the "modest stipend" I mentioned in my original post?
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  11. Moriarity
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    I bought a pair of Hurst mounts at a swap meet about 15 years ago that I thought were cadillac. brought them home bolted them to my 331 Cad and they fit perfect. I had them chromed , when I went to install the engine in my 40 I found that they were too long and the slots would not line up with the holes in my 40's biscuits ... I sold em to @Tuck and got a set for a caddy... I always struck me as funny that they bolted right on to the engine....
     
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  12. When I was putting the 426 in my '40, I borrowed a set of Hurst mounts from a buddy. I know a lot of people have used them thru the years. But the motor sat way too high for my liking. I made a set of side mounts, notched the crossmember for the oil pump and was able to get it a lot lower. Gene.
     
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  13. bchctybob
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    I noticed that about Caddy and Chrysler mounts.
    Personally, I prefer to mount the engines in my old Fords a little higher than most aftermarket mount kits do these days. I try to get a mechanical fan in a workable position and go from there. I don’t mind a little hump in the floor and the engines fill the engine compartment better.
     
  14. Jeff Norwell
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    This is why I like this place.
     
  15. bchctybob
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    What I've never understood about Hurst mounts is the U-shaped spacers that some installations required. With all of the clever engineering from Hurst, (look at the shifters - and their Hydro shifter) those horseshoe spacers seemed silly.
     
  16. bchctybob
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    Here's the Hemi to Chevy adapter that my friend and across-the-street neighbor Mike and I bought back in 1966 through Comet Auto Supply to put a Hemi in his '55 Chevy. I don't know why I didn't get the Schiefer aluminum flywheel he bought, wonder where it went?
    Hard to believe that I still have the Hurst mounts and the adapter after all these years....

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  17. COCONUTS
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    I use the stock engine mounts from a 273 Plymouth on my 331 Hemi. I think they are standard mounts.
     
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  18. I don't know about the Caddy mounts, but I'm sure the Chrysler was that way for two reasons.
    1-oil pump to crossmember clearance, as I said earlier 2-when I did lower it, the starter and steering box were fighting for the same spot. I used a '72 (I think) Nova box, made a bracket and moved it forward on the frame rail. Gene.
     
  19. tubman
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    Just to put a cap on this. "bchctybob" sent me a perfect set of patterns that will allow me to make the mounts I need.

    Many thanks to him!

    Once more, the "Power of the H.A.M.B." comes to the fore.
     
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  20. gimpyshotrods
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    I don't find that the least bit hard to believe!
     

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