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Technical Orner Motive Injection

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by cheap-thrills, Oct 3, 2022.

  1. cheap-thrills
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    C1A3D22C-31E0-45B5-B902-B6C643AB7222.jpeg Looking for information and owner manuals or any technical documentation for the Orner Motive sbc fuel injection units, I have been looking for other owners and anyone else that know how these FI systems are plumbed and tuned.
    I have looked through the jamb quite extensively, just can’t find exactly what I am looking for.
    I guess they are fairly rare, I have not heard of very many.
     
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  2. DDDenny
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    I know I've seen some discussion about it on the HAMB, can't recall where.
    Keep trying you'll be getting some info soon I'm sure.
     
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  4. cheap-thrills
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    F102F12E-C33E-4ADF-AC1B-D63B61573EA0.jpeg 0554A5D1-7AA3-4766-A244-3042A5C0296A.jpeg

    The above is from an earlier post I made, the thread was a general one, mainly photos of different injectors. IIRC the Orner brothers called it the injector with a brain.
     
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  9. Fordors
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    No, it was a Hilborn with the lip around the front and the fins on top trimmed off.
     
  10. DDDenny
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    Thanks, that's why the ???????
    Got the flower part right I hope!
     
  11. Speed Gems
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    @cheap-thrills I haven't found the thread yet but here's a picture of the scoop. I think the car is being restored and yes, the picture was posted by @buickfunnycar.com
    M&L gold car 7 Drag Racing Pictorial #2 1969.jpg
     
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  12. dreracecar
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    I did the injector scoop mods for John. wanted to save the front lip to hang on the wall upload_2022-10-5_8-44-17.jpeg upload_2022-10-5_8-44-52.jpeg
     
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    Plumb it like a Hilborn or Enderle and save yourself a huge headache, The injector is cool enough
     
  14. bchctybob
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    I was going to suggest consulting with Gene Adams or Kinsler about converting it to regular barrel valve operation and conventional nozzles and plumbing. It won’t be stock as Orner intended but it should work ok.
     
  15. Speed Gems
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    @Fordors Your right in looking at the picture i and @dreracecar posted it's not a Orner motive scoop.:oops:
     
  16. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    I think Pete Orner was a fluid dynamics professor at my alma mater Case Institute of Technology (now part of Case Western Reserve University) in Cleveland OH. This info may help in your search.
     
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  17. bschwoeble
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    I believe I posted before about seeing the Ornermotive injected altered at Indy. Their push vehicle, a 64-65 El Camino, had an Ornermotive injection unit on it. I think that was either 1964 or 65. Again, I had posted somewhere, that I saw several units and parts at a swap meet in Ohio several years ago.
     

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