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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by J.Ukrop, Sep 7, 2020.

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  1. cabong
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    Hey Joey, there is a flattie on FB Marketplace in Turloc that might be worth checking out.... It's apart but complete....
     
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    Thank you on all fronts! I've been working behind the scenes to put the pieces in place. Now all I have to do is put them all back together again!

    And thanks, she's the best!

    Thanks Joey. If you can build a complete car from the ground up in a few short months, I sure as hell can get this one back together. From one Joey to another, I appreciate your support big time!

    Thanks Timm! Hope you had a relaxing rest of your Sunday!

    Trying to!

    Haha yeah, she's something else. I love cruising around town in her vintage car too.

    Exactly!

    Hahahha I thought about that today when I was out in the garage. Details to follow.
     
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    Good info! Thank you

    Like I mentioned previously, that one is 100% on me. I'm an overly trusting person, which sometimes has its drawbacks. This was a prime example.

    Fair enough. I did mine in a high-riding style to emulate that era!

    That's what we concluded too.

    Glad you caught those. I've worn them as my shoe of choice since my Richmond days in 2014. I've worn through numerous of the black-on-black pairs, and I recently picked up a white pair to match Version 2.0 a little better. Don't worry, they've both already been covered in dirt, dust, grease and grime.
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    A random picture from shooting @tdog's "Omaha Coupe" for DicE's Slot Mag.

    I have a strong feeling that it will all work out in the end. Matt has been a big savior on this project for sure!

    I saw that. I have a strong lead on a 59AB in SoCal. I'm going to check it out when I head down south for TROG. Thank you for the heads up!
     
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    It's Sunday night and things are winding down after a very relaxing/fun/eventful long weekend. Let's dive right in.

    Yesterday morning, I pulled up to the shop with a clear goal: take on a task where I knew we would succeed. We weren't thinking about the engine—we were thinking about the big picture. With that, we shifted our focus to the pedals.
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    It felt good to revisit the pieces that I had been working on a month ago. The 10 gauge frame plate, the sandblasted pedal bracket with threaded holes, everything. With David's help, we worked it into position and tacked it in place.
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    Next, I made templates for the pedal support plates. IMG_9802.jpg
    I welded as much as I could. I'll finish the final pieces once the engine and trans are out.
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    Looking solid!
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    We then bent the clutch arm to align with the pedals. This will be fine-tuned when we rebuild the transmission.
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    As the sun set over Petaluma, I felt good about the day's progress. The pedals are in place, and we're one step closer to getting this car on the road.

    Before I left the shop, I asked David if he had any sage advice for my Version 1.5 disassembly, which was planned for Sunday. "Just remember to take breaks," he said.
     
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    Today was my day to get stuff done. It was quiet on the cul-de-sac, and it felt good walking down the front steps into the warm late fall sunlight. After reviewing Les Andrew's Model A book, I started removing cotter pins, organizing hardware and pulling the car apart. Sonny and the Sunset's album "Longtime Companion" played in the background.
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    Soon thereafter, I slid the rearend out from under the car. Success! With the complete assembly removed, I cleaned the clamshell and submerged all the necessary hardware in the ChemDip bucket.
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    Even though I've taken Version 2.0 apart dozens upon dozens of times, this was the first time I've taken the rear out of this one. I'd chalk today up as a victory.

    On Tuesday, you're going to see two Model A roadster build threads cross paths. @Jeff34 was kind enough to let me run the rear from his "Flathead Flathead" project, which is in the middle of its V8 conversion. I'll be picking it up in a couple days and installing it at the end of the week.

    Talk about fun with old cars!
     
  6. Tim
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    Fantastic man :)
     
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    Great work! Keep pushing on!
     
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    I bought one of Vern's off a grape defroster from Fresno, damn fine 59ab that needed nothing except aluminum heads and a high rise with two 94s and a set of Reds headers. Of course a good cleaning and some new earl.
     
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    Thanks guys!

    I saw that. It could definitely be an option.

    I've heard rumors of those engines and, as a matter of fact, was texting with Keith Tardel earlier today.
     
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    Back in the early days of this thread, I used to post a lot of stuff like this.
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    Tonight, I took a long walk through the Inner Richmond and Haight picking up odds and ends for the rearend swap (and dinner). I trimmed and installed the freshly oiled cork clamshell gasket and pulled the hardware from the ChemDip bucket. Other highlights include new gaskets, new lock washers and new cotter pins.

    During my disassembly, I realized that my car has a seven-leaf rear spring. That means it was either a roadster spring, or someone removed some leaves in the past 92 years. The spring attached to the rearend I'm picking up tomorrow has 10 leaves, so I am going to use the old all-thread and C-clamp technique to get the right ride height.
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    Question: what type of grease do you recommend for the U-joint? I heard that cornhead grease is good, but it's unavailable in San Francisco. On that same note, does anyone have a recommended grease or oil for the inner torque tube clamshell? Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.
     
  12. I usually have to order corn head grease. Do you guys have a John Deere dealership? I usually get it from them. Its kinda hard to find.... but I guess there isnt a lot of corn in California. I usually get a few tubes when I order it. anything thicker will cavitate around the u joint and not keep it greased correctly. I suppose some light grease mixed with oil would work in a pinch.
     
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    I bought some corn head grease a few years back at the JD dealer in Modesto, I think there’s one in Stockton too. If memory serves its like an 0 wt grease. Not something you see at your local AP store. I’d bet the FordBarn has a few alternatives.
     
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  14. Tim
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    I believe Amazon has it if you really had to go that way.

    lots of back and forth conversations in threads about what to put in that clam shell over the years might yield an alternative but by the time you figure it out you could have ordered the John deer product and had it in hand.
     
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  16. Jeff34
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    Amazon has it, but no overnight Prime shipping for it, and @51504bat it is expensive.
    I think I have a spare tube that I can loan you and you can replace it if you think that would help. You could pick it up with the banjo later today.
     
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  17. Perspective can be a funny thing. Definitely thought this was like a 4' wrench, until I saw the giant of a hand holding it.
     
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  18. Trust, but verify.
     
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  19. Six Ball
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    Red Line or Lucas probably has something that will work.
     
  20. Tim
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    What did you have in it previously?

    Also I don’t think model A’s have a zerk so there isn’t a seperate u joint and clam shell grease it’s only the clam shell grease if I’m not mistaken. Didn’t notice that little bit in your post til just now.

    Out of curiosity what’s the go to for Di Falco?
     
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  21. J.Ukrop
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    Sidebar 34: Jeff to the Rescue

    Yesterday, I made the trip to Petaluma to meet up with @Jeff34 and pick up the replacement rearend. As I backed into his driveway, I saw his '34 pickup, which has been in his family for years. (When I have some more time, I'll see if I can dig up the RJ Times coverage of it from one of the Northern California Reliability Runs). The truck sports a warmed-over flathead, complete with dual carbs and Edelbrock heads. It sounds healthy and runs even better. IMG_9878.jpg
    After checking out his in-progress "Flathead Flathead" roadster, we rolled the rear out of the garage. IMG_9881.jpg
    Using some strategic maneuvering, we managed to load it in the back of my truck. Even with two of us, it was still pretty heavy.

    With that, I thanked Jeff for his generosity and I was on my way. Friends helping friends—this is what hot rodding is all about.
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    You never know what you'll find on the streets of Petaluma!
     
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    With the rear still in the bed of the truck, I disassembled the leaf spring pack using heavy-duty C-clamps and all-thread. I'll be off camping tonight, but I plan to start re-assembly tomorrow after work. Oh, and Jeff also lent me the fabled cornhead grease, so the clamshell will be a-okay. I'm looking forward to putting the pieces back into position.
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    So then we can get back to more of this. Photo by Erik Jutras.
     
  23. Tim
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    Good stuff :)
     
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    The Hudson belongs to Rich, a neighbor of mine. He owns that as well as a Ford T-Bird. I think he spends more time working on old airplanes out at the airport hangar than cars, though.
     
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    I would just about kill to get my hands on a Hudson like that.
     
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    @Jeff34 good on you for helping Joey out!
     
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    Where can you get those tires? Looks like the could be made to look like dirt track tires real easy.
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  28. Jeff34
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    Glad to help him out. I just hope the banjo works for him at TROG!

    I bought them directly from Blockley:
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    Unfortunately, in the Crossply range, they only go as large as 6.50X16. That's the tire you see in the picture.
     
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  29. J.Ukrop
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    Same here. Interestingly enough, my neighbor at my old house had a yellow one. Every time I look at it, I swear it's chopped. Such a killer body style.
     
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    It's been a super busy week, but I have lots of thread updates happening soon. IMG_9978.jpg
    Feat. Yama!
     

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